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downloaded ForScan lite to my Apple stuff.
ordered the cables suggested.
Now I guess I need to download to one of my laptops.
One of the laptops is an I3 I think, it’s kinda old but still works—slowly
The other laptop is a “lightning fast” Spectra with an I7.

will the old one work okay? Or should I go ahead and put it on the new one?

I dont believe the licensing is able to be used on both.

Also kind of interested in installing an app to scan the GM cars.
Any suggestions on what to get for IOS?
Can your old one be capable of running the latest OS? For licensing, you won’t be able to use the same as both hardware IDs are different so you’ll have to request another one for the other hardware.
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Well... since the idiotic state of California won't let my dealer reprogram my truck for the new, larger tires that THEY installed, I guess it's up to me and Forscan to do it.

But... I am more a little confused about the instructions...

According to the spreadsheet:
Ford F-150 Lightning 2021+ F-150 FORScan List / Database / Spreadsheet ? 1638311311381


My new tires are Nitto Ridge Grapplers LT285/65R20's.

According to "Spart's tire size calculator".... that means...

Ford F-150 Lightning 2021+ F-150 FORScan List / Database / Spreadsheet ? 1638311508025


So... that equates to 0A 6D mm in circumference, or 10 for the first two digits, but 6D equals 109... which is THREE digits.

According to the Nitto website, these tires have a diameter of 34.80" or 883.9mm, which means that the circumference of the tire is 2,776.8537mm. So, to me, that means that the first two digits should be "1B" (27) and the second two "4D" (77), not "0A" and "6D".

Or am I totally misunderstanding this whole thing. (Which is not out of the question.)
 

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I didn't think about it too hard, but this is what the stock 20" tire size comes out to. I will be changing over to the factory 20" wheels and tires from the 17". I thought that it was converting the circumference from the calculation into a hex whatever for forscan.

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Well... since the idiotic state of California won't let my dealer reprogram my truck for the new, larger tires that THEY installed, I guess it's up to me and Forscan to do it.

But... I am more a little confused about the instructions...

According to the spreadsheet:
1638311311381.png


My new tires are Nitto Ridge Grapplers LT285/65R20's.

According to "Spart's tire size calculator".... that means...

1638311508025.png


So... that equates to 0A 6D mm in circumference, or 10 for the first two digits, but 6D equals 109... which is THREE digits.

According to the Nitto website, these tires have a diameter of 34.80" or 883.9mm, which means that the circumference of the tire is 2,776.8537mm. So, to me, that means that the first two digits should be "1B" (27) and the second two "4D" (77), not "0A" and "6D".

Or am I totally misunderstanding this whole thing. (Which is not out of the question.)
I would use that as a starting point and then if it is still off use the GPS method. The tire size calculation worked for my new tires but with my buddies we needed to adjust slightly via GPS.
 

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I didn't think about it too hard, but this is what the stock 20" tire size comes out to. I will be changing over to the factory 20" wheels and tires from the 17". I thought that it was converting the circumference from the calculation into a hex whatever for forscan.

Screenshot 2021-11-30 165903.png
But that makes no sense to me either. That means the 1st two digits of your tire circumference in HEX is "09" and the next two are "F2"... 09 Hex equals 09 in Decimal, F2 in Hex is 242 in Decimal... so how can that be the 4 digits of the circumference of your tire when it's actually 5 digits when converted to decimal?
 

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I would use that as a starting point and then if it is still off use the GPS method. The tire size calculation worked for my new tires but with my buddies we needed to adjust slightly via GPS.
Use what as a starting point? The numbers from Spart's make no sense to me. I am just hoping someone can explain it. (I am actually a pretty technical guy... which is why this is frustrating me.)
 

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I’m interested in further explanation on this as well…I too cannot make sense of it for some reason lol.

I went from the stock 275/60/20 to a 285/60/20, so while not a huge change, I know it’s still out by 1-2mph at 60mph.
 

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Well... since the idiotic state of California won't let my dealer reprogram my truck for the new, larger tires that THEY installed, I guess it's up to me and Forscan to do it.

But... I am more a little confused about the instructions...

According to the spreadsheet:
1638311311381.png


My new tires are Nitto Ridge Grapplers LT285/65R20's.

According to "Spart's tire size calculator".... that means...

1638311508025.png


So... that equates to 0A 6D mm in circumference, or 10 for the first two digits, but 6D equals 109... which is THREE digits.

According to the Nitto website, these tires have a diameter of 34.80" or 883.9mm, which means that the circumference of the tire is 2,776.8537mm. So, to me, that means that the first two digits should be "1B" (27) and the second two "4D" (77), not "0A" and "6D".

Or am I totally misunderstanding this whole thing. (Which is not out of the question.)
You are breaking the number in half to try to make sense of it. You wouldn’t take 27 and 76 put them together and get 2776, you would have 27+76. Do the conversion to hex, then worry about where they go.
09F2=2546
0A6D=2669
Those may not be your exact circumference, but really close. You can use this simple calculator as well to go from dec to hex or vice-versa.

https://calculator.name/baseconvert/hexadecimal/decimal/0A6D
 

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Made that change last night with no warnings after making the change to the HCM (long bed, no scales/ccd)
WTH...
Can you share your module info from Forscan?
When was your 502A built?

Here is mine (December 2020 Build received on March 2021):
Code:
IPC - Instrument Panel Control Module
Part number: ML3T-10849-CCL
Calibration level: ML3T-10849-CCL
Strategy : ML3T-14C026-CCM
 

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WTH...
Can you share your module info from Forscan?
When was your 502A built?

Here is mine (December 2020 Build received on March 2021):
Code:
IPC - Instrument Panel Control Module
Part number: ML3T-10849-CCL
Calibration level: ML3T-10849-CCL
Strategy : ML3T-14C026-CCM
tonesto7 this is my doing. I took some of the info you came up with and figured out the “error” issue for my Tremor initially. I rolled it out on a tremor specific forum first. Then a new thread popped up here, so I rolled it out to everyone. There are some differences depending on the truck configuration, but I think we have everyone covered now.

In the interest of further proliferation here are the changes required:

Shoutout to: @tonesto7 and @Livnitup for paving the way.


Glare Free Menu (replaces Auto High beam) in APIM:
7D0-09-01 x1xx xxxx
7D0-09-03 xxCx xxxx
Note: a module reset in FORScan or power cycle is required for the menu to appear.

IPMA
706-01-01 xxxx xxx9

SCCM
724-04-01 xxx4 xxxx

IPC
720-01-01 xx8x xxxx
720-10-01 xxxx xxx3

HCM
734-01-01 xxxx xx01
734-01-02 x3xx xxxx

Short bed No onboard scales / ccd
734-01-04 xx53 4E

Short bed with scales / ccd
734-01-04 xx56 D1

Long bed no scales / ccd
734-01-04 xxD9 88

Long bed with scales / ccd
734-01-04 xxDC 17
I thought by referencing you guys you would get some type of notification. Guess not.

https://www.f150gen14.com/forum/thr...ghts-coming-to-the-us.7004/page-4#post-126675

Definitely worth the effort.
 

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Another one for the sheet:

Fake engine noise disable for the eco / power boost:

ACM
727-01-01 xxxx xxxx 0x
 

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WTH...
Can you share your module info from Forscan?
When was your 502A built?

Here is mine (December 2020 Build received on March 2021):
Code:
IPC - Instrument Panel Control Module
Part number: ML3T-10849-CCL
Calibration level: ML3T-10849-CCL
Strategy : ML3T-14C026-CCM
tonesto7 this is my doing. I took some of the info you came up with and figured out the “error” issue for my Tremor initially. I rolled it out on a tremor specific forum first. Then a new thread popped up here, so I rolled it out to everyone. There are some differences depending on the truck configuration, but I think we have everyone covered now.

In the interest of further proliferation here are the changes required:



I thought by referencing you guys you would get some type of notification. Guess not.

https://www.f150gen14.com/forum/thr...ghts-coming-to-the-us.7004/page-4#post-126675

Definitely worth the effort.
I followed ROBB1's instruction and also don't get a warning.
 

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You are breaking the number in half to try to make sense of it. You wouldn’t take 27 and 76 put them together and get 2776, you would have 27+76. Do the conversion to hex, then worry about where they go.
09F2=2546
0A6D=2669
Those may not be your exact circumference, but really close. You can use this simple calculator as well to go from dec to hex or vice-versa.

https://calculator.name/baseconvert/hexadecimal/decimal/0A6D

Doh!!!! I took the instructions LITERALLY!

Ford F-150 Lightning 2021+ F-150 FORScan List / Database / Spreadsheet ? 1638333462191


I am an old, old programmer... and read them sequentially!
The answer is: Take your circumference in mm, convert the entire value to HEX, then put the first two characters in the first location, the last two in the second position!

So... my tire is 2,777 mm in circumference, which is 0AD9 in Hex... which isn't far off from Spart's tire size. Since I got my number from the Nitto website, I think I'll go with that.

Thanks for clearing that up for me! Hopefully it makes sense to @smarty39 who was also confused.
To my credit though... the instructions in the spreadsheet are not very clear. :)

Ford F-150 Lightning 2021+ F-150 FORScan List / Database / Spreadsheet ? 1638333326697
 

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Doh!!!! I took the instructions LITERALLY!

1638333462191.png


I am an old, old programmer... and read them sequentially!
The answer is: Take your circumference in mm, convert the entire value to HEX, then put the first two characters in the first location, the last two in the second position!

So... my tire is 2,777 mm in circumference, which is 0AD9 in Hex... which isn't far off from Spart's tire size. Since I got my number from the Nitto website, I think I'll go with that.

Thanks for clearing that up for me! Hopefully it makes sense to @smarty39 who was also confused.
To my credit though... the instructions in the spreadsheet are not very clear. :)

1638333326697.png
Nice!

If you do decide to use the GPS method to fine tune it you can get the correct hex values from this thread: https://www.f150gen14.com/forum/thr...ecalibrate-speedometer-for-bigger-tires.1503/
 

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Can your old one be capable of running the latest OS? For licensing, you won’t be able to use the same as both hardware IDs are different so you’ll have to request another one for the other hardware.
Old one is plenty capable, 5yr old win10, 1tb/32ram—just a slow I3 processor.
But, today I had to order a new battery for it.

I guess I’ll download the program onto the new one and just use the temp license for now.
Adaptors and cables coming tomorrow, and I won’t get battery til next week.
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