Lightning vs Rivian R1T Hauling - Cargo Carrying Comparison by Alex on Autos

[Maxx]

What are the big practical pros and cons for the way you use yous?

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[cvalue13]

What are the big practical pros and cons for the way you use yous?

Biggest critique of this “How do they haul” assessment: no mention of the front but especially back seat shoulder/hip/leg room.

The F150L front searing room, and the back seat “hauling” area, are massive compared to the Rivian.

And a main thing *I* “haul” around are two, and soon to be three, toddlers in their car seats. (And before them, dogs, guns, saddles, furniture, etc., where the back seats fold up.)

The video spends some time espousing how the Rivian “gear tunnel” makes use of some “waisted” space in the F150Lc but fails to mention that the Rivian’s gear tunnel surely has something to do with its small back seat.

 

[cvalue13]

I found this on the web

I think the issues, from the perspective of an F150 owner, speak for themself

 

[sotek2345]

I found this on the web

I think the issues, from the perspective of an F150 owner, speak for themself

Yup, I use that rear flat floor all the time. Was definitely a point against the Rivian.

 

[Pioneer74]

Yup, I use that rear flat floor all the time. Was definitely a point against the Rivian.

-2 points considering how little leg room there is.

 

[Maxx]

I found this on the web

I think the issues, from the perspective of an F150 owner, speak for themself

I remember I went to test drive a Kia Soul EV and the sales man couldn’t get it started (I am not sure if he knew what an EV was) so I figured what the heck, let’s try that F150. It was the first time I saw the space in the back seat. when I flipped it up, it felt like a minivan inside the truck. I called the reluctant wife and she was sold the first minute of the drive; mostly for window visibility and hight (she like looking down on people).

All that said, there is an expense associated with that space. Rivian is shorter by the same amount and that could be the difference in getting a parking spot in the city and not getting it.

 

[ExCivilian]

I wonder why they did it like that. My 25 year old RAM has a similar storage section but there's a fold-out that makes the floor flat.

 

[greenne]

I love Alex's reviews, but I think he's wrong about the gear tunnel occupying "wasted" space that you find in the f150. The gear tunnel clearly intrudes on the bed space and under the back seat space on the Rivian. There is clearly more space on the Lightning if you fold the seat up. I'm just not understanding where he gets that the f150 has wasted space...

 

[cvalue13]

I'm just not understanding where he gets that the f150 has wasted space...

obvi agree, and to add: some reports I’ve seen from Rivian folks suggests that gear tunnel can be pretty awkward storage. The kitchen and similar pull out accessories is intriguing, but as a cargo hold it seems a bit of a forced idea.

wonder what @MNLightning thinks

 

[greenne]

obvi agree, and to add: some reports I’ve seen from Rivian folks suggests that gear tunnel can be pretty awkward storage. The kitchen and similar pull out accessories is intriguing, but as a cargo hold it seems a bit of a forced idea.

wonder what @MNLightning thinks

To me the gear tunnel is a gimmick. Just give me more space in the cab and/or space in the bed. With a frunk, more protected/covered storage seems unnecessary given the tradeoff, imo.

 

[Roy2001]

I found this on the web

I think the issues, from the perspective of an F150 owner, speak for themself

Rivian passenger space is even less than compact SUVs like a RAV4. It is not a competitor to F150, they are so different.

 

[Maxx]

Rivian passenger space is even less than compact SUVs like a RAV4. It is not a competitor to F150, they are so different.

True. They have completely different target audience but the similarity they have is more than they do with any other vehicle. What else other than hummer has a bed, battery and electric motor (without a gas tank)? Despite their differences I had reservation for both like so many others simply because there are not many other electric choices for a truck.

 

[IdeaOfTheDayCom]

What are the big practical pros and cons for the way you use yous?

Just watched this on YouTube and posted this comment there.

You left out THREE of my favorite F-150 cargo spaces.

1. The space under the F-150 back seat is pretty big, not to mention the space when the back seat is folded up.

2. The space in the F-150 center console is HUGE... it's as big as a small file cabinet with actual hanging file rails, so it's as wide enough and deep enough for hanging letter sized PendaFlex files. Rivian's center space is tiny.

3. F-150 has TWO glove compartments. The top one is smaller, but Rivian doesn't have ANY glove compartments. I'm taking delivery of my Lightning next week... but I should point out that those spaces are the same in my old ICE version too.

 

[Maxx]

Just watched this on YouTube and posted this comment there.

You left out THREE of my favorite F-150 cargo spaces.

1. The space under the F-150 back seat is pretty big, not to mention the space when the back seat is folded up.

2. The space in the F-150 center console is HUGE... it's as big as a small file cabinet with actual hanging file rails, so it's as wide enough and deep enough for hanging letter sized PendaFlex files. Rivian's center space is tiny.

3. F-150 has TWO glove compartments. The top one is smaller, but Rivian doesn't have ANY glove compartments. I'm taking delivery of my Lightning next week... but I should point out that those spaces are the same in my old ICE version too.

Congrats. Please give us am initial impression.

 

[IdeaOfTheDayCom]

Congrats. Please give us am initial impression.

I’ll definitely do a video at some point from the perspective of an 8-Time Ford owner and current Mach-E driver’s perspective.

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