Sponsored

Is mine the only state that punishes folks for buying an EV?

metroshot

Well-known member
First Name
Pat
Joined
Aug 26, 2021
Threads
97
Messages
2,127
Reaction score
1,749
Location
Montclair, CA
Vehicles
2022 Lariat F150L + 2023 MME
Occupation
Networking Tech
Oregon registration fees for a new EV are over $800.

Your state isn't the only one. They have to make money back because you aren't paying the fuel tax. It's not a punishment.
California charges $175 for EV registration but my entire registration I paid for my '22 Lightning was almost $1000 !!!

Someone is ripping someone...
Sponsored

 

Maxx

Well-known member
Joined
Jul 15, 2021
Threads
39
Messages
1,889
Reaction score
2,171
Location
MD
Vehicles
23 Pro, Sky RL, Frontier, Aurora V8, Buicks, ....
I see what you're saying, but I don't want my rates going up. A 0%-100% charge at home costs me $7. $7 for 240 miles.

What my state is doing, and I'm participating in, is charging me for actual mileage driven in my state instead of the $800 registration fee. It auto charges me and is roughly $10-$15 a month so far.
Actual mileage driven makes sense since it correspond to the use of state services and driver contribution to congestion which in turn forces the state to increase the capacity.
 

BennyTheBeaver

Well-known member
Joined
Jun 18, 2021
Threads
43
Messages
2,110
Reaction score
2,275
Location
PNW
Vehicles
2023 Lightning XLT ER
Actual mileage driven makes sense since it correspond to the use of state services and driver contribution to congestion which in turn forces the state to increase the capacity.
Exactly. This is why fuel tax no longer makes sense, IMO.

Now, this program has 2 types of reporting. Manual reporting (submit a photo of your mileage monthly), or automated reporting which I do. I read the fine print and verified how the data was and wasn't being used. While I know nothing is technically "private" nowadays I felt secure enough to have their OBD decide in my truck. When I drive into Washington, Idaho, or Cali (which I do often) it doesn't log those miles towards my fees. At the end of the month it calculates my usage, which I can review, and autocharges me (as I said, so far it's been $10-$15 a month).
 

RickLightning

Well-known member
Joined
Jan 17, 2022
Threads
80
Messages
4,999
Reaction score
6,613
Location
SE MI
Vehicles
'22 Lightning ER Lariat,'22 Mach-E Premium 4X
Many states do this. Easily found before purchase.
 

GDN

Well-known member
First Name
Greg
Joined
Feb 15, 2022
Threads
84
Messages
3,199
Reaction score
3,875
Location
Dallas, TX
Vehicles
Lightning Lariat ER, Performance Y
Occupation
IT
This comes up every 2 years in TX. So far it has been defeated. I'm OK paying road taxes since I no longer buy gas, but the lawmakers want to make the EV fee higher than most gas autos pay.

So it's time to scrap the old tax collected on gas and make either a flat assessment per vehicle registered or do it based on mileage and good luck collecting that each year without cheaters.
 

Sponsored

VTbuckeye

Well-known member
First Name
Joseph
Joined
Jan 15, 2022
Threads
5
Messages
909
Reaction score
874
Location
Vermont
Vehicles
22 Lightning Lariat ER max tow built Aug 22, 16 XC90T8, 22 XC40 P8 Recharge
I'm in Vermont. I want to support the roads in proportion to my use. 2 EVs and 1 phev in our household, maybe 17k miles annually between all three. Let's scrap the gas tax and variable registration fees and have a mileage based fee structure. No, EVs don't pay the gas tax, but figure out how much gas tax I would pay based on my miles driven and assess me only that amount.

My truck in laws live in Ohio and I went to school there so follow some of their goings on. $200 per car that plugs in (even low range phev that use plenty of gas).
 

Amps

Well-known member
Joined
Feb 21, 2022
Threads
5
Messages
1,333
Reaction score
1,502
Location
Mid-Atlantic
Vehicles
Bolt
Virginia has the OBD based mileage reporting as an option to paying the yearly fuel-efficient vehicle fee. The Catch-22 is that you can only enroll when renewing your registration. New vehicles have to wait. Seems ridiculous and the company administering the program says that there may be changes soon. So far, it hasn't helped me out on Lightning.
 

Ffxdude

Well-known member
Joined
Aug 25, 2021
Threads
1
Messages
539
Reaction score
579
Location
Virginia
Vehicles
22 Lightning
Virginia has the OBD based mileage reporting as an option to paying the yearly fuel-efficient vehicle fee. The Catch-22 is that you can only enroll when renewing your registration. New vehicles have to wait. Seems ridiculous and the company administering the program says that there may be changes soon. So far, it hasn't helped me out on Lightning.
Doesn’t it also record all miles regardless of whether its instate or out, or did they change that?
 

TaxmanHog

Moderator
Moderator
First Name
Noel
Joined
Jan 19, 2022
Threads
171
Messages
12,331
Reaction score
12,988
Location
SE. Mass.
Vehicles
2022 Lightning Lariat-ER Max Tow & 2024 Harley-Davidson Road Glide CVO-ST
Occupation
Retired
So it's time to scrap the old tax collected on gas and make either a flat assessment per vehicle registered or do it based on mileage and good luck collecting that each year without cheaters.
WE HAVE WAYS...................
 

Amps

Well-known member
Joined
Feb 21, 2022
Threads
5
Messages
1,333
Reaction score
1,502
Location
Mid-Atlantic
Vehicles
Bolt
Doesn’t it also record all miles regardless of whether its instate or out, or did they change that?
I don't know, I couldn't participate because it was a new vehicle registration and you can only enroll when renewing your registration. Really seems silly to me.
 

Sponsored

viennaxmas

Well-known member
First Name
Sarah
Joined
Jan 17, 2023
Threads
3
Messages
103
Reaction score
95
Location
Vienna, VA
Vehicles
2023 F150 Lightning Lariat
Virginia has the OBD based mileage reporting as an option to paying the yearly fuel-efficient vehicle fee. The Catch-22 is that you can only enroll when renewing your registration. New vehicles have to wait. Seems ridiculous and the company administering the program says that there may be changes soon. So far, it hasn't helped me out on Lightning.
Unfortunately, they do not mention this when renewing (or I did not see it). I just paid an additional $100 for our Prius. A car that has been driving less than 100 miles in the last 4 month. Just sits there to be used as trade in for the Lightning:cool:.
There is some talk that my county is trying to get rid of the property tax on cars, that might be the much better deal.
 

USA EV

Well-known member
Joined
Mar 16, 2023
Threads
6
Messages
179
Reaction score
219
Location
USA
Vehicles
2023 Lightning Pro, 2015 FIAT 500e
Indiana also has a flat rate equal to >15K miles. Not too surprising or worrisome. I'd definitely rather pay a flat rate than have tracking enabled even though we drive less than 10K miles across 2 EVs.
 

LUXMAN

Well-known member
Joined
Jul 23, 2022
Threads
20
Messages
289
Reaction score
361
Location
Texas
Vehicles
F150 Lightning PRO and XLT
Occupation
Pilot
California charges $175 for EV registration but my entire registration I paid for my '22 Lightning was almost $1000 !!!

Someone is ripping someone...
Oh yes, and he lives in Sacramento ....
 

LUXMAN

Well-known member
Joined
Jul 23, 2022
Threads
20
Messages
289
Reaction score
361
Location
Texas
Vehicles
F150 Lightning PRO and XLT
Occupation
Pilot
This comes up every 2 years in TX. So far it has been defeated. I'm OK paying road taxes since I no longer buy gas, but the lawmakers want to make the EV fee higher than most gas autos pay.

So it's time to scrap the old tax collected on gas and make either a flat assessment per vehicle registered or do it based on mileage and good luck collecting that each year without cheaters.
Everyone should pay the same per vehicle, but a flat fee specifically on EVs is not fair. It always seems to be too high. I already pay a 4% fee to my local taxing district for electricity. Plus I am sure more to the state via my inflated electric coop rates. And if you use public charging there is tax in there as well, so how about these people get there sticky fingers outta my pockets and solve some real problems?
Sponsored

 
 





Top