General Grabber tires

[Marcoux]

Hey guys,

Turns out there's a puncture in one of my general grabbers and the shop is asking that I change all 4 at this point...

When came the time to look at new tires, they advised me that these tires are simply Gerneral Grabber HTS60 tires...indicating that they aren't necessarily made different from any regular grabbers they would put on an ice truck. Can anybody confirm this?

If so, has anybody tried a different all-season tire like the Michelin Defender LTX by any chance? Wondering if we'd be getting a huge hit in range...

Thanks!

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[TaxmanHog]

Load Rating 116!!!!!!

 

[Marcoux]

I'm aware of that... still doesn't exactly answer my questions...lol

 

[MichaelCA]

based on this thread:
https://www.f150lightningforum.com/...g-after-the-stock-tires-wear-out.16667/page-6

SInce I started this thread I thought I should post which tires I finally selected. I had the Michelin Defender LTX M/S 2s installed last week at 36,128 miles. So far I have seen no noticeable range reduction. I averaged 3.3 miles/kw on the way home from the dealership which is rural roads with speeds limit of 55mph which i usually travel 60ish. They are very quiet and have been great so far. I'll give another update in a few thousands miles or so but so far I am very happy with my choice. I was also able to apply 40,000 ford pass points to the purchase of the tires which helped a lot on price.

2023/2024 Lightnings are coming with these now instead of the General Grabbers:
https://www.goodyear.com/en_US/tires/wrangler-territory-ht/24355.html

So I'd go with your defender choice or the wranglers. I know the wranglers HT have an "EV" ready symbol on their tirewall if that sways your decision but I do know that the Defender LTX M/S2 are also EV ready in their marketing.


Costco has a promo on Michelins for $80 off a set of 4 tires.

dont quote me on this, but I believe the grabber hts60 are carry overs from the standard f150.

 

[ddbrooke]

I put 27k miles on the original Generals. I’ve had Defenders on now for a little under 1k miles. I knew towing my 19’ camper would be the true test. I’ve averaged 1.3 mi/kW towing with the Generals. I just towed a 300 mile round trip and got 1.1 mi/kW. That is the difference between making it to the State Park without having to DC fast charge and not.
The Generals had 4/32+/- on them when I got rid of them and I think efficiency got better as they wore down.

 

[chillaban]

There’s a new Defender LTX M/S2. I put these on after my Grabbers wore out and the Defender is hands down better. A lot less road noise, feels grippier when cornering, and it handled mixed light snow / ice wonderfully this winter.

If you want to go all season these would be my recommendation.

 

[ctuan13]

There’s a new Defender LTX M/S2. I put these on after my Grabbers wore out and the Defender is hands down better. A lot less road noise, feels grippier when cornering, and it handled mixed light snow / ice wonderfully this winter.

If you want to go all season these would be my recommendation.

Any loss in efficiency?

 

[Nomoregas]

I installed 2 weeks ago DEFENDR LTX MS2 AWESOME not noticed any range loss at all, maybe small amount compared to my bald grabbers but that's not fair anyways.

I will say I had good experience on the grabbers for the 68500km i put on them

 

[RickLightning]

IMO, human beings don't know crap about the impact of changes from an efficiency standpoint. They remove the air dam, then "I noticed no difference".

The only way to truly know the impact of changing tires is to drive the exact same stretch off road, at the exact same consistent speed, temps, etc. Looking at energy used in CarScanner.

1.2 vs 1.3 isn't 0.1, because 1.2 might be 1.15 or 1.24. You can't see that.

Michelin Defenders are great tires. I put them on our Fusion Hybrid and then PHEV over the Michelin Energy Savers they came with. Buying a tire with an 70 or 80,000 mile wear warranty is worth money.

A made for EV tire will get better efficiency, whether you notice it or not. Assume only a 5% impact. Assume 2 miles per kilowatt hour, and drive 10,000 miles, using 5,000kWh. Getting 1.9 means you would use 263 more kWh.

Do you care is the question.

 

[chillaban]

Any loss in efficiency?

Nothing I’ve noticed as significant and I make the same 300 mile drive weekly.

 

[Heliian]

Michelin Defender LTX

Never again, Michelin turned them into garbage tires.

 

[vvgogh]

1.2 vs 1.3 isn't 0.1, because 1.2 might be 1.15 or 1.24. You can't see that.

Since the two displays (instrument cluster vs. center screen) of miles/kWh employ both truncation logic and rounding logic, you can narrow down 1.2 miles/kWh displayed on both displays to 1.20 to 1.24. Similarly, if they differ (1.2, 1.3 mi/kWh), then the estimate is really 1.25-1.29 miles/kWh while simultaneously telling you Ford is bad at software. (Maybe different subcontractors were responsible for each display, then Ford is bad at software requirements.)

 

[TaxmanHog]

I'm aware of that... still doesn't exactly answer my questions...lol

I haven't needed to change my all-season tires yet, I have no opinions about what other options might be best, leaving that to those who have replaced them.

 

[Artificial Intelligence]

Don't buy general grabbers... its a rubbish tire and should have never been on lightning.

 

[ctuan13]

Don't buy general grabbers... its a rubbish tire and should have never been on lightning.

I have my own issues and opinions on the OE General Grabbers, but what are your issues with them?

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