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  1. Deconstructing the Lightning: Using AI to Map PIDs for Torque

    These are raw from using forscan to log and wireshark to monitor the message traffic. Gemini is then trying to reconstruct from the bits into the PID used and the equation. These are of course raw from it and hence the need for validation
  2. Deconstructing the Lightning: Using AI to Map PIDs for Torque

    I have done some more logging and here is the consolidated list. These still need to be validated. Copy into a text editor or excel to turn into a csv. (note, excel takes the header value and converts a bunch to scientific notation. To fix it use the text import and set that and the PID...
  3. Trailer Advice Airstream for 2023 ER Max Tow

    1.1 for an empty flatbed is brutally bad, like not quite believable, bad. I can pull my ancient Dutchman RV at 70mph just under that. Frankly, I would get the bearings repacked and if it has brakes get them checked. If it's riding at an angle I would find a hitch that levels it. If it's got...
  4. Deconstructing the Lightning: Using AI to Map PIDs for Torque

    The thought is on my mind. Part of my redesign is to enable multiple vehicles and different (changing) configurations per vehicle (tire size, towing, etc) Not sure if it could scale appropriately, or how to host it, but the concept would be cool.
  5. Deconstructing the Lightning: Using AI to Map PIDs for Torque

    Admittedly I didn't compare the various databases, just some quick research. That said my primary goal was analytical queries, viewing data across the entirety and trending or plotting various attributes. Although the data comes in as time series, my analytic ideas were not focused that way. I...
  6. Deconstructing the Lightning: Using AI to Map PIDs for Torque

    https://www.f150lightningforum.com/forum/threads/deep-dive-lightning-pro-er-performance-efficiency-via-custom-pid-logging.34523/ Might take you up on helping designing it out. Right now I'm trusting Gemini to build the data into a DuckDB instance. So far it seems to be working fairly well, but...
  7. Deconstructing the Lightning: Using AI to Map PIDs for Torque

    It also needs to be remembered that the battery thermal management is different depending on the output of the charger. We have seen yours bring the battery up to around 43f, but with my 48a the truck prioritizes heating more, bringing the battery immediately up to 60f. Still, if the numbers...
  8. Deconstructing the Lightning: Using AI to Map PIDs for Torque

    Yes. I have another thread on building a database of sensor values and how those are displayed. This is more about getting pid values. I MUCH prefer the app torque for displays and data logging, but it is severely lacking in available pids. This was an attempt to get more pids for that app.
  9. F150 Lightning FORScan thread - Version 2

    Hmmm, I wonder if approach lighting would work on my pro...
  10. Deep-Dive: Lightning Pro ER Performance & Efficiency via Custom PID Logging

    6700 lbs I'm using battery voltage and current.
  11. Deep-Dive: Lightning Pro ER Performance & Efficiency via Custom PID Logging

    Yes, although its also a bit misleading. The plot indicates that accelerating hard is more efficient than accelerating slow, which is opposite from gas motors. By plotting Kinetic Power gained vs Electric Power consumed a perfect system is along the diagonal, and an imperfect system is below...
  12. Deep-Dive: Lightning Pro ER Performance & Efficiency via Custom PID Logging

    Its not making the charts unprompted, so yes I am telling it the parameters we are working with for each chart. But with SOC, I recognize that on occasion I may have said SOC not SOC displayed which is how they are delineated in my logs. The ingest and cleanup process also transfers the PID...
  13. Deep-Dive: Lightning Pro ER Performance & Efficiency via Custom PID Logging

    One of the dangers of using tools like Gemini to do this work is that it isn't as apparent exactly what is going on in the back end. It's possible it's using SOC and not SOC displayed but I don't believe it is. The same is true for the averaging, you don't really see "under the hood", well not...
  14. Deep-Dive: Lightning Pro ER Performance & Efficiency via Custom PID Logging

    Agreed Although I do rarely charge to 100% and even more rarely log while charging. I do know I have seen 131kwh displayed at 100% charge so it's just not in this data. Which is worth pointing out. This data is only since August, so its mostly cold weather data
  15. Deep-Dive: Lightning Pro ER Performance & Efficiency via Custom PID Logging

    Did some more work into the dashboards and data. Also had Gemini switch to Plotly as a plotting tool and I revamped the structure some while also making new plots. This plot is looking into the difference between SOC and SOC Displayed. A one to one match would be along the solid white line...
  16. Winter heating 2023 vs 2024

    Energy used and range aside... I LOVE the heat in my 23. If I had to get another I might buy a used 23 because of it. Heat arrives very very quick and gets to actual hot air quickly. Also, no noise at all from the heater. The AC isn't loud in the summer, but quite noticeably there, I much...
  17. Trailer Advice Airstream for 2023 ER Max Tow

    If range is your BIGGEST concern go with the single axle. But understand it is a more difficult trailer to tow. As said, it will be less stable and have other concerns. Properly loaded (correct weight distribution) , a WDH, and an anti sway system will make a big difference. People can and do...
  18. Deconstructing the Lightning: Using AI to Map PIDs for Torque

    It may be a battery protection (warranty) effort. Lithium plating happens when charging with the battery cold and the heating may be an effort to limit that. As is the truck does change the heating depending on the power of the evse. Or charge on L1...
  19. Deconstructing the Lightning: Using AI to Map PIDs for Torque

    Could try running a CAN sniffer on the APIM as you repeatedly engage and cancel a Ford Nav trip to a charger.
  20. Ford EV Range vs GM posted range

    The Lightning modulate both temp and quantity of air. Regardless, it takes WAY more BTUs to get the cabin to 80 than 70, and it sheds a lot more heat too because of it.




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