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  1. EREV - A Horsepower Math Problem?

    Much, much, much smaller battery
  2. Important Update: Ford EV Roadmap & Future of F-150 Lightning (EREV Next Gen Model) - ⛔️ ADMIN WARNING: NO POLITICS

    The Taycan's are VERY nice, but take a look at the used prices on the Audi E-tron GT (same car, different body), I couldn't believe how cheap they were!
  3. Lightning is alive... my ode songs

    That was fantastic - thank you for sharing!
  4. Lightning vs. EREV Lightning

    Smaller battery should offset the added weight of the ICE components, so I wouldn't worry too much on that.
  5. EREV - A Horsepower Math Problem?

    Ford already fits a 3.5L twin turbo ecoboost or a 5.0L V8 under the hood. Remove the frunk to go back to a standard setup in the front of the truck and put the generator bit in the transmission tunnel and everything fits nice and neat. Shrinking the battery pack would also free up some room.
  6. EREV - A Horsepower Math Problem?

    Yeah, I don't know how the math works unless they drop to a much smaller battery pack (40-60 kwh LFP? - maybe the base Mach-e pack?). With the smaller pack, I don't see how a naturally aspirated V6 engine put out enough juice to keep it charged while delivering enough power. I also have to...
  7. Lightning vs. EREV Lightning

    And that is assuming it even comes with a DC fast charging option. It could be limited to L2 charging to keep costs down.
  8. Important Update: Ford EV Roadmap & Future of F-150 Lightning (EREV Next Gen Model) - ⛔️ ADMIN WARNING: NO POLITICS

    I have been looking at a few different options on exactly this. Do I dump it now before the resale values completely collapse and spare parts are still available? Unfortunately I am still ~$7k upside down on my loan which is a LOT of negative equity to refinance. Do I hold for another year...
  9. EREVs Are Not The Answer, EREVs are a Niche Market.

    Or maybe they just put a ~10kwh battery in it to call it an EREV and effectively run off of the engine.
  10. Important Update: Ford EV Roadmap & Future of F-150 Lightning (EREV Next Gen Model) - ⛔️ ADMIN WARNING: NO POLITICS

    Why are you assuming such a HUGE battery for the EREV? Ford is making this change to bring down the cost of manufacturing so they can make a profit on each sale. The only way to do that while adding an ICE engine is to substantially shrink the battery. Likely something in the 40kwh to 60kwh...
  11. Important Update: Ford EV Roadmap & Future of F-150 Lightning (EREV Next Gen Model) - ⛔️ ADMIN WARNING: NO POLITICS

    Can I choose a regulated market where government power is used to protect citizens from the negative externalities of corporate actions.
  12. Important Update: Ford EV Roadmap & Future of F-150 Lightning (EREV Next Gen Model) - ⛔️ ADMIN WARNING: NO POLITICS

    Yes, but you still have the situation of a dead battery while towing uphill at highway speeds. the generator needs to supply enough power to do that confidently. This was a huge issue on the i3x, and that was a tiny little light weight car.
  13. Important Update: Ford EV Roadmap & Future of F-150 Lightning (EREV Next Gen Model) - ⛔️ ADMIN WARNING: NO POLITICS

    You are also forgetting the use case for max towing uphill with a dead battery. To be successful, I think you need to support that without a significant loss in performance. That would put the generators max sustained output closer to 300kw (or 400hp)
  14. Important Update: Ford EV Roadmap & Future of F-150 Lightning (EREV Next Gen Model) - ⛔️ ADMIN WARNING: NO POLITICS

    That is nuts. That is about the same price I am seeing for a 2022 ER Lariat. Great deal for you!
  15. Important Update: Ford EV Roadmap & Future of F-150 Lightning (EREV Next Gen Model) - ⛔️ ADMIN WARNING: NO POLITICS

    Is the hit in value assumed, or did you see information somewhere. KBB doesn't show much of a change for my 2022 Lariat.
  16. Important Update: Ford EV Roadmap & Future of F-150 Lightning (EREV Next Gen Model) - ⛔️ ADMIN WARNING: NO POLITICS

    It will have to be either a boosted V6 or a v8 or else you get a huge power drop off when the battery is depleted.
  17. Important Update: Ford EV Roadmap & Future of F-150 Lightning (EREV Next Gen Model) - ⛔️ ADMIN WARNING: NO POLITICS

    Don't forget the size of the engine that will be needed to meet full power demand when the battery is drained. There can likely be some buffer by load spreading, but I would think they would need at least either the Coyote V8 (boosted)? or the 3.5L twin turbo Ecoboost. We have 580HP and 775...
  18. What Features Do You Want to See In Next Gen Lightning?

    Well - I guess I will change my answer to Existence. Existing would be a great feature.
  19. Important Update: Ford EV Roadmap & Future of F-150 Lightning (EREV Next Gen Model) - ⛔️ ADMIN WARNING: NO POLITICS

    What kills me the most is that plenty of data shows that the vast majority of people who get plug in hybrids never actually charge them and they get horrible efficiency toting around a heavy battery that is effectively never used. I suspect that will be the case for many of these EREV...
  20. Important Update: Ford EV Roadmap & Future of F-150 Lightning (EREV Next Gen Model) - ⛔️ ADMIN WARNING: NO POLITICS

    100% agreed. Also, the climates doesn't have another 5 years for us to move backwards.




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