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  1. Paint codes and other details included in 2021 F-150 reservation metadata

    Thanks for the great info! You guys are dangerous ⚠️ Compared to we older guys with no computer smarts. Is NORAD safe?
  2. Ford Will Build 15K Lightning in 2022, 80K+/yr by 2024

    Did a little research on Ford fleet sales. It appears they go through a different registration system than the reservation system we are talking about here. A commercial customer fills out the pertinent information and how many units of each trim they are interested in. Then Ford notifies them...
  3. Ford Will Build 15K Lightning in 2022, 80K+/yr by 2024

    Ford looked at the demand generated by “other” BEV manufacturers, married that to the best selling vehicle in America and couldn’t predict the result? I’m sorry, I don’t buy it. Trouble with material deliveries or workforce or logistics I get that. But infrastructure should have been in place...
  4. Ford Will Build 15K Lightning in 2022, 80K+/yr by 2024

    I also keep my vehicles for a long time, 20+ years. Just see my vehicle list to the left. But now I’m wondering if the current battery pack is a short term solution that may be replace with solid state technology in the second edition. And maybe that’s why Ford is dragging their feet.
  5. Ford Will Build 15K Lightning in 2022, 80K+/yr by 2024

    I want to know the real reason why Ford is slowing their roll here. Isn’t it correct that that the MachE had first year production limited to about 50k units due to anticipated battery availability? And that was for a new unproven model. Ford has already made agreements with two battery...
  6. Ford Will Build 15K Lightning in 2022, 80K+/yr by 2024

    Maxx My problem with my perception of this process is two-fold: First there’s the money, but second there appears to be no binding agreement that results in a vehicle in a specified period of time. From what I’m hearing from those that replied is that, “delivery is a moving target that may get...
  7. Ford Will Build 15K Lightning in 2022, 80K+/yr by 2024

    That’s almost worse than Ford getting it. So now I may have my $2,000 deposit sitting at a dealership for 2-3 years?
  8. Ford Will Build 15K Lightning in 2022, 80K+/yr by 2024

    120,000 reservations at $100/reservation is a $12m interest free loan. If they convert 50% of those reservations to orders with a $2,000 deposit that’s another $120m more. But there’s no binding agreement with the customers that are funding this “Go Fund me” page with any sort of commitment that...
  9. Ford Will Build 15K Lightning in 2022, 80K+/yr by 2024

    And I read somewhere here that upon ordering there’s a deposit due ; perhaps $2,000 to $2,500?
  10. Ford Will Build 15K Lightning in 2022, 80K+/yr by 2024

    So are you saying they convert the existing reservations to orders, but then don’t fulfill them until 2023 or 2024?
  11. Ford Will Build 15K Lightning in 2022, 80K+/yr by 2024

    So Ford has published preliminary MSRP pricing for its 2022 production run. And has generated over 120k+ reservations. The 2022 production run will be limited to ~15k vehicles. And sadly I have a much later reservation number. So I’m curious whether Ford will honor 2022 MSRP prices for those...
  12. Tow Technology Package and resale value

    Doesn’t the computer on an ICE adjust the air/fuel mixture, and ignition components to change the power needs from a daily driver mode to a towing mode? A tune that squeezes more horsepower out of the engine.
  13. Tow Technology Package and resale value

    Okay Then my next question is whether the battery management system restricts the batteries/motor in some manner similar to a governor; so you don’t damage them - unless or until you install the max towing package to open up the full potential?
  14. Lithium EV vs Up coming Solid State EV

    That’s great real life info Shutterbug!!! The only thing that would make it better would be some info on your typical driving profile (city/highway miles, jack rabbit starts, passenger loads, etc.) In fact, it’s probably worthy of another thread. Ford has the ability to gather this kind of info...
  15. Tow Technology Package and resale value

    So you’re saying that the motors/batteries already have the ability to tow the additional capacity. The Max tow package only adds hardware that protects the motors/batteries from damage?
  16. Tow Technology Package and resale value

    If the standard range battery is rated at 426 hp and the extended range battery is rated at 563 hp I can understand an increase of the base towing capacity of 5,000 lbs. to maybe 7,500 lbs. ( but I haven’t seen the actual towing capacity of the baseline extended battery). But could someone...
  17. Lithium EV vs Up coming Solid State EV

    Shutterbug: Do you mind clarifying your statement regarding a 200 mile range?
  18. Lithium EV vs Up coming Solid State EV

    The Lariat Premium also comes standard with the extended range battery, but the Max Towing package is still optional even at that trim level; it only becomes standard in the Platinum trim…
  19. Lithium EV vs Up coming Solid State EV

    Just saying It seems counterintuitive when Brands like Tesla have three models that range from 250 to 500 miles and it’s the most expensive model that has the highest range. Then there’s Ford that wants to sell the Platinum pickup with the worse range of the premium battery?
  20. Lithium EV vs Up coming Solid State EV

    You may be right. But it would be a poor marketing move on Ford’s part. It appears that by all accounts that the number one consumer concern is the range of an EV. If Ford is trying to sell their flagship pickup that gets less mileage than their lower grade models, it sounds to me like the kiss...


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