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https://www.carsdirect.com/deals-articles/ford-still-won-t-let-f-150-lightning-dealers-list-prices-under-msrp

Why not just pull the easy levers to increase demand like eliminating MAAP? Ford's EV strategy continues to make no sense to me.

Agreed. This is how cars have always been engineered. Unless people think all '22 Tundras will have the wastegate issue because Toyota won't make changes until '23...

"Extended range version that starts at $50,000". Not pointing out that it's fleet-only is criminal.

Honestly, for a truck (no apples to oranges comparison with your Model Y here), even 300 isn't enough. That's because the cold-weather-while-towing-uphill-range needs be 300 to fully supplant ICE trucks. Even then, there will be holdouts, but I'd say that's the number to make them a vocal...

I agree with your second statement, but it doesn't make your first statement true.

I'd like clarification on why adding the Tow Technology Package to a Pro removes Co-Pilot360. Hopefully this is just an error in the B&P?

I had this thought as well and chalked it up to a bug, but since it's still present in the B&P, it's a little concerning.

I genuinely don't mean to sound preachy, but this is why brand loyalty is an outdated concept. Every purchase is a chance to do new research and reach a different conclusion on what's best for you. Being loyal to any organization out to turn a profit is a rather one-sided relationship.

What's a little money-laundering between friends?

I can get over the looks given the superior numbers vs the Lightning elsewhere, but that payload capacity gives me pause...

My charging cable is pretty long, so I guess I wasn't even on the look-out for where the port was.

I typically prefer nothing "ignites" in my BEVs so a keyed "ignition" (which was hinted at by some Ford livestreams IIRC) always seemed odd.

I feel like the only one excited by this pricing. I expected them to hold back most Pros for fleet orders anyway, so I don't mind waiting a few years, but I was sure I'd have to step up to XLT to get something like push-button start or climate control. Being able to stick with the Pro is a huge...

I'm in the same boat. I don't need a new truck immediately, so getting pushed to a later model year doesn't bother me. But I'll cancel my Maverick order for a Lightning... as soon as the tax credit passes.

It wasn't really a relevant site. Note the ICE model pictured and the $40k price for the XLT. Likely just a test that wasn't meant to be publicly accessible.

Reserved 11/25 from a CO dealer.

Unaltered? I agree. I don't expect the union provisions to survive and the amount may come down, but for the bill to die entirely? In my opinion, that's unlikely.

Purely anecdotal, but if the tax credit doesn't pass, I'll just stick with my Made-in-Mexico Maverick order. Pretty sure that's not the outcome either side of the aisle is looking for.

A beautifully simplistic view of supply and demand, but there is a floor to that. Given the number of reservations Ford has for the truck, you really think they'd wind up taking $12.5k off the price just due to pressures of the free market? If they can sell 100% of what they make either way...