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Check out all the Broncos that have sold there recently. The hype around the Lightning is just as high I feel. People get upset over the idea of flipping. Like they wouldn’t do the exact same thing if they could make $5,000-15,000 in a week.

Everyone here will roast you. But throw it on carsandbids and see what happens. You won’t even need a reserve. It’ll bring over MSRP guaranteed.

As an owner of an 01 Lightning I get the hate on the Mach E name now.

its a hive mentality here, reminds me of Reddit but worse. Guys like Zach and Chip @ Granger are doing things the right way and people here only wanna reward shitty dealerships with bad markups and “games”. It’s 2022, use 5 minutes of research and you’ll know a fair price at a dealer willing to...

You can believe whatever you want to. I will say no deal was made that after holdback, stairstep (this is 2015 when it was still around), etc was a true loser deal. Every deal made had to be at least $1 black after everything. You’re forgetting the skinny deals you take, because you’re gonna...

20-33% depending on month. Will vary on region and demographics.

Where was that stated?

reading comprehension. Cash deal so no warranty purchase as usual. No adds as I said. You aren’t going to the dealer for service and deals aren’t made based off of that regardless. Pre-Covid many dealers will show a negative front end gross only to make a positive deal with holdback/d&h/etc...

Been out 6 years, just know the actual profit margins unlike so many arm chair experts here. I’m talking the actual accounting on the specific truck. Plus Ford has got rid of all their stair step bonuses for the most part (region specific). Also holdback on a Lariat won’t be above $2,300 so...

So it’s 2018, you’re buying a new F-150 Lariat at ABC Ford. You agreed to $800 below invoice with a $399 dealer handling fee, no add one. You’re paying cash. What’s the dealer making off you?

I’m sorry your secondhand knowledge of the business is affecting your brain

Just because for the first time in 10+ years it’s now a sellers market. Did you feel the same way when you bent the dealer over?

example: 2017 F150 XLT MSRP $55,155 Rebate: $4,000 Dealer discount: $6,000 dealer discount comes off of profit. Rebate doesn’t affect dealers profit.

Show me on the doll where the bad car salesman hurt you

not at all. Rebates come from manufacturer. There’s no $10,000 rebate from Ford.

I’m sure no one in here was crying when the big 3 took $8,000-12,000 off MSRP on half ton trucks. Plus look at all the other “middle men” businesses. Real estate, grocery stores, electronic stores, etc. You all act like 80% of retail businesses aren’t middle men raising prices up over what they...