25% tariff on ALL imported autos announced

[Gator 22]

If Toyota commit to opening factories here in the USA to build cars that are now built in Japan, I suspect Tariffs would be put on hold or reduced until they open the factories. The goal is to increase domestic production in the USA. Traditional US brands including Ford and GM use Mexico and Canada. I see nothing wrong with the goal is increasing Made in USA products. We'll see pain before gain.

I can see a LOT wrong with this. Start with precedence of the 1930's tariffs like the Smoot-Hawley Tariff. And the great depression. It is always the middle class that gets hammered and hurt by these tactics. When we need logical and well thought out plans to help our industries, not the "chainsaw" and wrecking ball. This is our lives not the show The Apprentice. The middle calss is reaching its breaking point.

 

[Grumpy2634]

I assume that your dealer paid for the 4Runner as soon as it left Japan? I don’t know the payment logistics. IF it was already paid for I think it would be exempt from any tariffs. I really really expect this to be rescinded when he, they come to the realization of how many US businesses will be affected in a negative way.

I originally was waiting for a hybrid 4 Runner which are being released very slowly so with the tariff looming I went in for an oil change on my 2010 4 Runner and ended up buying a 2025 Land Cruiser. Expensive oil change!

 

[et2041]

I originally was waiting for a hybrid 4 Runner which are being released very slowly so with the tariff looming I went in for an oil change on my 2010 4 Runner and ended up buying a 2025 Land Cruiser. Expensive oil change!

LOL, I close on a Land Cruiser Premium on Wednesday. Hoping I dont lose my deposit on the TRD Pro that is still in Tahara waiting for the boat.

 

[TRD_GUY]

I can see a LOT wrong with this. Start with precedence of the 1930's tariffs like the Smoot-Hawley Tariff. And the great depression. It is always the middle class that gets hammered and hurt by these tactics. When we need logical and well thought out plans to help our industries, not the "chainsaw" and wrecking ball. This is our lives not the show The Apprentice. The middle calss is reaching its breaking point.

You really haven't done your research, that much is clear. See if this helps paint the picture. This is America's current trade deficit.

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[TRD_GUY]

I originally was waiting for a hybrid 4 Runner which are being released very slowly so with the tariff looming I went in for an oil change on my 2010 4 Runner and ended up buying a 2025 Land Cruiser. Expensive oil change!

So I've never been in a LC. How does it compare? Is it any more offroad capable than a 4-runner TRD Pro? I've seen some interesting LC builds that has me intriguiged.

 

[TRD_GUY]

Question- what do you all think will happen to the value of the new 4 runner and LC after these tariffs are implemented? Will everyone who already owns one see a dramatic value increase? Will they be worth more ?

No they will not be worth more. Most will consider them too expensive as-is, much less with tariff pricing factored in.

 

[Gator 22]

You really haven't done your research, that much is clear. See if this helps paint the picture. This is America's current trade deficit.

This

https://www.bea.gov/data/intl-trade-investment/international-trade-goods-and-services
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[TRD_GUY]

https://www.bea.gov/data/intl-trade-investment/international-trade-goods-and-services
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I'm very familiar with the breakdown and have studied it.

 

[Gator 22]

You really haven't done your research, that much is clear. See if this helps paint the picture. This is America's current trade deficit.

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And if you want the breakdown of individual industries just click and save the PDF. You will note that this is from info is from the Bureau of Economic Analysis, US Dept of Commerce, not just an opinion.

Where is the above chart from?

 

[MikeSmot]

I have a wind chill sports premium with deposit to arrive end of April, however with the dealership giving me the constant run arounds if my price will be locked in. I received a call today from another deposit on an ice cap SR5 with 4x4 arriving on the lot today and able to pick up today. I wanted the sports premium over the SR5. However, with the tariff scare, uncertainty, and the run around on the sports premium price; I am really considering heading to the dealer now. I have about 4 hours to decide = (

 

[TRD_GUY]

And if you want the breakdown of individual industries just click and save the PDF. You will note that this is from info is from the Bureau of Economic Analysis, US Dept of Commerce, not just an opinion.

Where is the above chart from?

Yes, again, I have all this data.

 

[Gator 22]

Every economic

Yes, again, I have all this data.

OK then, tariffs are not so bad............ I'll tell that to the farmers that lost their family farms back in his first term and the ones that are going to lose them now. Or should we just move Toyotas new billion dollar plant to North Carolina so we don't pay a tariff for our new 4Runners?
Please enlighten me as to where you chart came from and your thinking on this.

I'll read your reply later tonight.

Cheers

 

[et2041]

So I've never been in a LC. How does it compare? Is it any more offroad capable than a 4-runner TRD Pro? I've seen some interesting LC builds that has me intriguiged.

Off road capable with A/T tires. It's 1.1 inch closer to the ground. Skid plates recommended and sway bar disconnect is availble, but you have to search for them. I liked the LC ride as smoother, very responsive and nice luxury. You could compare it to a Platinum I guess in that sense but many Overlanders swear by their Land Cruisers.

 

[TRD_GUY]

Off road capable with A/T tires. It's 1.1 inch closer to the ground. Skid plates recommended and sway bar disconnect is availble, but you have to search for them. I liked the LC ride as smoother, very responsive and nice luxury. You could compare it to a Platinum I guess in that sense but many Overlanders swear by their Land Cruisers.

So let me ask, would adding a lift/more offroad capable suspension and larger wheels bring it closer to being more off-road worthy, but with a more luxurious interior compared to the 4R?

 

[et2041]

So let me ask, would adding a lift/more offroad capable suspension and larger wheels bring it closer to being more off-road worthy, but with a more luxurious interior compared to the 4R?

Absolutely. Later this year I'll look to try to find some 18" TRD Pro wheels and 33" tires. Check out landcruiserforum.com to see some builds.