Electric rate hike kicked in

[ragj1976]

Not a lightning issue, but my supply rate just went from .12 kWh, to .33kwh. Cost me 600 to drive the truck in nov. Mass.

Now looking at alternate suppliers. Lowest I’ve found is .17

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[BennyTheBeaver]

I can't complain here in Oregon. We have a ton of Hydro out here which helps. It's only a matter of time before everything hikes.

I have set my charger and truck to avoid weekdays from 5pm-9pm.

 

[Blainestang]

Not a lightning issue, but my supply rate just went from .12 kWh, to .33kwh. Cost me 600 to drive the truck in nov. Mass.

Now looking at alternate suppliers. Lowest I’ve found is .17

It's not feasible for everyone, BUT at $0.33/kWh, Solar is probably getting close to "no-brainer" status.

 

[Pitbull2o08]

I’m in San Diego and SDGE is predatorial.

 

[lightspeed]

Pifff the crooks at PG&E charge me $0.56/kWh at peak times -- $0.25 off peak which is better but still robbery compared to most states.

 

[Capertrj]

Maine will bump the standard offer from $0.117 to $0.176 for the new year. Add in the $0.097 delivery rate and it will be around $0.27 per kWh. The standard offer has increased 83% in 2021 when it was $0.064.

They push going electric (heat pumps, vehicles, range, etc) then slam you after you’ve made the transition. Waiting for my first electric bill with lightning to see what size solar panel system I will need to get to near 0 usage. It looks like I’m close to 2,000 kWh for the billing period.

 

[TaxmanHog]

Not a lightning issue, but my supply rate just went from .12 kWh, to .33kwh. Cost me 600 to drive the truck in nov. Mass.

Now looking at alternate suppliers. Lowest I’ve found is .17

Yup, our new garage service was activated 9/30, we had 16 days at the National Grid summer rates then it jumped to the winter rates on 10/15. We assumed incorrectly they would set up our third party energy provider as it is for the main house from Constellation, now we've requested the change. Once done we will be at 27 cents a kWh from around 38 cents (including delivery rates)

 

[boggle]

Eversource is literally doubling our service rates here Jan 1 to $0.24/kWh before their owned tacked-on delivery charges (we'll land somewhere around $0.37/kWh). People who say they'll save on gas by going EV have never been to CT. Gas was $2.93 this morning. At the new rates it will actually be cheaper to use an EA+ station than to charge at home. This state is going to struggle getting people to convert to BEVs. None of the new F150 Lightnings even qualify for our $2,250 CHEAPR tax incentive (only the MY22 Pro falls under the $50K MSRP cap).

 

[LightningShow]

I haven't checked my bill but my assumption was that my all in cost would go from $0.25 to $0.41/kWh this month. I've been paying under $0.15/kWh at the local EA stations. I'm pretty much not charging at home at all. I do the majority of my charging at work for free and fill in the gaps, when needed, at EA stations. I only charge at home as a last resort.

 

[Zprime29]

Waiting for my first electric bill with lightning to see what size solar panel system I will need to get to near 0 usage. It looks like I’m close to 2,000 kWh for the billing period.

Probably going to need a very large system. For reference, I have 8.8kW of panels with a 7.5kW inverter in sunny Tucson, AZ. I get 55-60kWh per day in mid summer and 40-45kWh in mid winter. Last year I produced around 18,000 kWh (which is about 90% of my yearly usage). Given how far north you are I imagine you will see a larger swing between summer and winter, but I think weather will make a bigger difference. I make less about half the summer average during monsoon season. We get clouds and storms during the peak production hours and that makes a big dent.

EDIT: Forgot to add that I don't have an EV yet, that's just normal home use.

 

[It's Just Me]

Well my timing blows @$$. For years I paid less than $14 just to be connected to the grid here in southern NH because I have solar.

Had a nice bank of juice too, lasted three months before that got blown through. My first bill from Eversource was $199.83, and has nicely dovetailed with their new rates which have gone from 10.669 to 22.566. And we all know that the likelihood of anyone's rates going down is somewhere between slim and none, and slim just left the building.....so.....

While gas is still going down are around here, I doubt that it will get a whole lot better or hit the rates that were here in November 2020. In either event, that $200 for juice is quite a bit less than the $300-$400 I was paying for fuel every month in my old '15 F-150.

I honestly probably would not have gone through with the lightning if I did not have solar. But I do love the truck. Now I am reconciling myself to the prediction that overall costs of ownership for the lightning are much less than an ICE.

 

[It's Just Me]

For you folks talking about it being cheaper to use EA sites.....I wonder how much longer it will be less. They're going to be taking the hit just like anyone else will. And that cost is passed on to the consumer...Plus the costs of their much touted expansions is going to have an effect as well.

I am not trying to bring politics into this, however when I watch the blithering blowhards scream from the top of their lungs that EVs are the only future out there.......I wonder what it is like to be living in a place where unicorn urine flows from the faucet. Just seems so unrealistic and out of touch with the reality that so many of us see. And we're believers in this EV stuff.

I went to Cape Cod last month with the GF, had more trouble finding reliable, high speed chargers for the truck than I did when I drove to Hershey two months ago. It's so hit and miss.

 

[Capertrj]

Probably going to need a very large system. For reference, I have 8.8kW of panels with a 7.5kW inverter in sunny Tucson, AZ. I get 55-60kWh per day in mid summer and 40-45kWh in mid winter. Last year I produced around 18,000 kWh (which is about 90% of my yearly usage). Given how far north you are I imagine you will see a larger swing between summer and winter, but I think weather will make a bigger difference. I make less about half the summer average during monsoon season. We get clouds and storms during the peak production hours and that makes a big dent.

EDIT: Forgot to add that I don't have an EV yet, that's just normal home use.

Got quotes for a 10, 13, 16 system. Maine does have net metering so can bank that summer production for the winter. My current commute of 550 miles a week also isn’t permanent. That will drop after I finish this school Program.

 

[Aspesi4]

I'm in the same boat. I switched suppliers from National Grid to Discount Power, Inc. at 22cents per kwhr. They're a green provider and figured for a few cents more than Constellation, I'd pay the premium. Also, there's no contract and a $50 gift card for new subscribers. When the rates hopefully drop in the summer, I'll switch back to National Grid as the supplier.

 

[jimfigler]

I haven't checked my bill but my assumption was that my all in cost would go from $0.25 to $0.41/kWh this month. I've been paying under $0.15/kWh at the local EA stations. I'm pretty much not charging at home at all. I do the majority of my charging at work for free and fill in the gaps, when needed, at EA stations. I only charge at home as a last resort.

That stinks. The main appeal for me on an EV is charging at home. Without it I would be hard pressed to buy an EV again.

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