Tim Bartz confirmed pricing on extended reservation Pro orders

jimfigler · Oct 25, 2022

So on his Q&A session tonight I asked about this.

So the people who ordered wave 1 that were pushed to MY23 or extended their reservation will get the $7000 private offer as well price protection from the $5000 increase. They are handled differently as the private offer is in their smart Vincent system and the protection is the price at the time ordering, that is on your order summary. He said if dealer plays dumb about price protection just indicate you know that you are price protected, sometimes they are hoping the buyer doesn't know. He said since 2016 Ford honors the price at the time you ordered. As a last resort call ford customer service and say the dealer will not honor price at the time of ordering. The price on window sticker is irrelevant as it will also show the higher price.

anthafied · Oct 25, 2022

Thanks for posting this! I feel like we are getting the deal of the century!

timwren · Oct 25, 2022

@jimfigler Thanks for posing that question!

Oneand0 · Oct 25, 2022

Thank you! Super happy to hear that.

Flashy McLightning · Oct 25, 2022

anthafied said:
Thanks for posting this! I feel like we are getting the deal of the century!

I’m getting pretty excited. I measured the garage and I think it is going to fit!

Snappy22 · Oct 26, 2022

Crazy town!

shadycoh · Oct 26, 2022

so with a sticker of 58K -12K price protection and 7500 tax credit the cost is 38,300

cvalue13 · Oct 26, 2022

Wait, people are suggesting that this posture means you’re getting the truck for less than the even the original order price?

That just don’t pass the smell test, but if so I’ll be clapping for those of you in that posture!

shadycoh · Oct 26, 2022

cvalue13 said:
Wait, people are suggesting that this posture means you’re getting the truck for less than the even the original order price?

That just don’t pass the smell test, but if so I’ll be clapping for those of you in that posture!

shrug msrp started at 40K in the beginning and 7.5K rebate from the feds has up till next year been available on them

jimfigler · Oct 26, 2022

cvalue13 said:
Wait, people are suggesting that this posture means you’re getting the truck for less than the even the original order price?

That just don’t pass the smell test, but if so I’ll be clapping for those of you in that posture!

I never seen the word "posture" used in this way

timwren · Oct 26, 2022

cvalue13 said:
Wait, people are suggesting that this posture means you’re getting the truck for less than the even the original order price?

That just don’t pass the smell test, but if so I’ll be clapping for those of you in that posture!

Yeah this is Wave 1 of MY23. Ford originally raised the price 7k but offset it for the extenders by granting a 7k PCO. We all ordered before Ford jacked the price another 5k on the Pros (which essentially were sold out to the general population after our wave). Our Window Stickers show the current MSRP but our orders have the original 23 MSRP and we all have a PCO to bring our trucks down to 22 MSRP so effectively 12k under current. Coupled that with a 22 delivery for some of us opening the full tax credit and we have been lucky. On the flip side that latest MSRP increase likely excludes me from an OR state credit of 2.5k but I’m going to see if our paperwork was the MSRP under 50k so I can appeal.

jimfigler · Oct 26, 2022

Yep 57K sticker minus 12k -7.5k Fed tax credit- 2K state at sale rebate= 35.5k

cvalue13 · Oct 26, 2022

jimfigler said:
Yep 57K sticker minus 12k -7.5k Fed tax credit- 2K state at sale rebate= 35.5k

yes, I understand the purported maths, I’m just dubious that Ford was in fact extending the “private offer” in order provide those buyers with a discount below even old/lower MSRP at order date.

Dubious because I don’t see any rationale or justification for Ford saying, Oprah-style, “you get double discounts, and you get double discounts, and you get double discounts”

personally, I’ll believe it when I see a completed transaction on those double-discount terms

but if/when I do, I will stand and slow clap for the lottery winners!

jimfigler · Oct 26, 2022

cvalue13 said:
yes, I understand the purported maths, I’m just dubious that Ford was in fact extending the “private offer” in order provide those buyers with a discount below even old/lower MSRP at order date.

Dubious because I don’t see any rationale or justification for Ford saying, Oprah-style, “you get double discounts, and you get double discounts, and you get double discounts”

personally, I’ll believe it when I see a completed transaction on those double-discount terms

but if/when I do, I will stand and slow clap for the lottery winners!

How is it below the old (original) MSRP? Current MSRP is $51954, original MSRP was $39954. $51954 - $7000 Private Offer - $5000 price protection is $39954.

cvalue13 · Oct 26, 2022

shadycoh said:
shrug msrp started at 40K in the beginning and 7.5K rebate from the feds has up till next year been available on them

yeah I’m ignoring the tax credits as neither here nor there wrt Ford’s pricing

jimfigler said:
How is it below the old (original) MSRP? Current MSRP is $51954, original MSRP was $39954. $51954 - $7000 Private Offer - $5000 price protection is $39954.

my bad, sounds like I’m misunderstanding somehow - perhaps a few of the other commenters above threw off my interpretation (eg “deal of the century”)

jimfigler said:
I never seen the word "posture" used in this way

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