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Ouch, seriously? That's basically what Kia/Hyundai has been quoting for out of warranty battery replacements as well. Too bad legislation didn't force battery replacement costs to *actual* costs + labor.

I meant to ask this when you posted before, what is the definition of city driving here? My summer commute (with a mix of 35mph to 60mph) efficiency is usually in the 2.8 mi/kwh range.

What are the battery temps? You aren't going to get the same amount of kWh out of the pack of the temps are low.

I assumed the SOC sensor is trying to give you a better idea of the total charge, usable + reserve (so for SR 98 kWh vs 107.6 kWh... for ER 131 kWh vs 143.3 kWh), whereas the "SOC Display" is trying to just show you the usable battery charge.

I leave mine plugged in. I think the energy draw is really minimal.

Gotcha. Well most likely the answer is, assuming you were correct and you didn't just miss it happening last year, is that Ford may have changed the logic of the displayed SOC through an update sometime in the past year.

A year ago we didn't have the actual battery percentage on the display, so unless you were using an OBDII dongle you maybe weren't noticing... at least that was the case with me. I don't remember when the truck was updated to display the numbers for state of charge.

I use this: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B076XVQMVS/ Of note, I bought one last year and didn't use it all that much and then tried to use it a few months ago and it didn't seem to work, but I sort of wonder if I messed up the bluetooth settings (I don't think you are supposed to add this...

Need to get you guys some OBDII dongles and carscanner/phone app to grab the sensor/temp data. I've been trying to collect cold temp data but our temps really haven't dipped that significantly so far this year.

yes, and just adding on that it is because regenerative braking is not 100% efficient, there are heat and other losses (I think DC to AC conversion?) that mean that the less you use both friction and regenerative braking, the more efficient you will be. But also, the more people behind you...

Agreed with the first sentence. Whichever setting makes you use the friction brakes less is your most efficient mode.

It was fine. Edit: forgot to mention I drove past my first Cybertruck on this trip... and I really was not expecting to see one of those in my area for many more months so it caught me off guard.

Yes, correct. My drive this morning (20 miles over 30 minutes) brought the pack temp up from 30F to 37F. I'm not sure how much of that was the heater or driving. The effect is probably pretty variable so tough to rely on.

Here's the thing, I don't think the truck is reporting the state of charge as significantly different. My truck sat overnight again, started at 86% displayed SOC and HVB temp 55F, energy to empty 75.8 kWh. This morning SOC was 85.5%, HVB temp 30F, energy to empty 70.9 kWh. I don't think they...

Fair point... My post was already longer than I meant

The voltage of the pack will increase, so the capacity will increase. You have the same number of electrons, but they have more energy. This is only a net positive for you if you have an external source of energy for the heat, though. In your case, the weather changed, so the higher air temp...

Bit of a bump here but I wanted to expand on this point here with some actual data and the temps have been too warm... the "stored energy"/kWh is not the same when the temperature of the pack is lowered... temperature lowers the voltage of a battery, which directly reduces the amount of energy...

My truck doesn't have PaaK?

EVs can totally be used... It is just our trucks are not the ideal candidates because they have overall slow charging. (Slowish curve and large batteries) Lol still a few more hours north to get to Canada from Syracuse

They are not without their issues... But I won't ever go back to an ICEV.