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  1. Anyone getting Concerned that Ford is not in on EV for the long haul

    I totally agree that there are some great unions, however, their numbers are smaller than the bad ones. It's a business for god sake. The union is an intermarry that charges the employee money to negotiate hourly rates, protect the "dog f*&%k" that does not deserve it so it looks like they are...
  2. Anyone getting Concerned that Ford is not in on EV for the long haul

    Hard to not agree with that statement. Looks like we are on to something!
  3. Anyone getting Concerned that Ford is not in on EV for the long haul

    This is how the inflation spiral happens. No new productivity to offset the increase in cost. Just pure inflation. So the coffee shop increases cost because the annual inflation is higher, the grocery store increase cost to match inflation. The auto worker says they now need more because food...
  4. Anyone getting Concerned that Ford is not in on EV for the long haul

    Sure hope you are right. I am in the same boat of products. Love them but concerned that software improvements are slow to materialize. Ford comes out with one update (improvment) and Tesla has 4. Not fixes but updates to improve performance or add features.
  5. Anyone getting Concerned that Ford is not in on EV for the long haul

    Total agreement with all statements. Just a question for everyone, how is the average working family to justify paying higher prices because the average auto worker is paid much high wages than the average blue collar labourer ?? Generally speaking, higher wages means a big move forward with...
  6. Anyone getting Concerned that Ford is not in on EV for the long haul

    That is disappointing to hear. Sorry for the situation you find yourself in. Software will be king now and more importantly in the future.
  7. Anyone getting Concerned that Ford is not in on EV for the long haul

    If governments do that, the end consumer may suffer, we saw that for the last 40 yrs. Car makers are lazy, always going after the low hanging fruit. They use to tell us what we wanted, then Japan came into the market. Now China has emerged as a leader. Software will dictate hardware, just as it...
  8. Anyone getting Concerned that Ford is not in on EV for the long haul

    I think what at is play now are a couple of factors. Shareholder want short term gains at the expense of long term viability. Their only investment is in money and not job security. Sell out at anytime with no commitment. Workers and families have a different reality. The second point I see is...
  9. Anyone getting Concerned that Ford is not in on EV for the long haul

    Great point! Easy software change. Certainly hope still drive well. EV's are amazing to drive. Oh, was this a figurative and not actual speaking comment? LOL
  10. Anyone getting Concerned that Ford is not in on EV for the long haul

    All great points, sounds similar to what was said about the Japanese car manufactures back in the 70-80. That experiment netted some of the best cars ever made at the time. Had that not happened, I am not sure what cars would be like now. My point is simple, question the N.A. automakers hard on...
  11. Anyone getting Concerned that Ford is not in on EV for the long haul

    I don't disagree, If there is no balance, then it is like eating your young. Technology is moving so darn quick. If you are not in the game, you will be relegated to a very small market of ICE vehicles. That being the case, stop trying to remove competition for EV with high Tariffs. Not sure...
  12. Anyone getting Concerned that Ford is not in on EV for the long haul

    Correct, Ford was going to build the vehicle at a plant in Oakville with the help of the Provincial government here. They dumped that idea and are now brining the Super duty 350 to the plant. My Ford dealership thought this was a good idea. Frankly I am not fully sure why. It almost feels like...
  13. Anyone getting Concerned that Ford is not in on EV for the long haul

    Yes, they were the one that was financial stable and of the big three in N.A. they maybe the one to survive. The fact of the matter, they are asking governments to jack up tariffs to protect them from competition. It makes you wonder why the consumer has to pay so much more to get the best tech...
  14. Anyone getting Concerned that Ford is not in on EV for the long haul

    Agreed, since most people charge at home and this makes the financial case for EV, infrastructure does not have the impact now compared to 10 yrs ago. Ford is playing into the oil giants hands. This news effects me in that I was going to buy out the lease early and save a few dollars. Now with...
  15. Anyone getting Concerned that Ford is not in on EV for the long haul

    Tell that to the Chinese manufactures. They are coming out with more and more advances and the N.A car companies are backing away. Not the posture of a winning strategy. Shareholders first, with the eventual demise of the company in the long term.
  16. Anyone getting Concerned that Ford is not in on EV for the long haul

    Not sure the term "Too big to fail" is accurate. 2008 saw major bale outs to the big three. GM were giving a dividend while loosing money. The ultimate demonstration of stupid. Once the self driving car is perfected to the point of full adoption, car Manufactures will drop like flies. Only the...
  17. Anyone getting Concerned that Ford is not in on EV for the long haul

    Seems like you and I are on the same page. All too often these car companies rely on the governments to step in and either put up a trade barrier to stop competitive forces from selling better tech to the end user or worse, they look for bale outs from the government to keep them running. Tesla...
  18. Anyone getting Concerned that Ford is not in on EV for the long haul

    I agree with your comments on "oil" and "borrowed time". What I would like to see is a little more updates to software that will improve functionality of the truck and efficiencies. Ford has a very expensive battery pack in the truck. I am sure they can get more miles out of it and charging...
  19. Anyone getting Concerned that Ford is not in on EV for the long haul

    Hello to everyone in the forum I am a bit of a junky for EV news, developments and new Tech. It will not come to anyones surprise that there has been a bit of a push back with the transition to EV. Loads of mis-information by people that have no clue about what they are talking about. Most...


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