I see the misunderstanding now. When he wrote "Smaller than the Ranger and the same size as the new Maverick compact truck" I thought he was referring to vehicle dimensions as my post he quoted was about F-150L vs. CT dimensions.Huh?
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PungoteagueDave
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Elon's EU comment long since retracted - deposits being accepted in UK as I write - two of my friends have made them. I guess with Brexit, UK isn't technically EU.As the saying goes: you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink.
It's not:
Is that why Panasonic is setting up pilot production lines? Not that it's really important given Tesla is also making their own.
https://electrek.co/2021/10/25/panasonic-unveils-tesla-4680-battery-cell-production-next-year/
Elon Musk: “We made the exec decision to not make a world truck, so it does not comply with a lot of EU spec and stuff. We can make a truck that does comply with the EU spec in the future, we are fundamentally making this truck as a North American ass-kicker."
Smart choice, stop whilst you are behind.
Panasonic's pilot production line is WHERE they identified the problems with both reliability/longevity and volume production speed that they have not been able to solve. The entire 4680 program has been pushed back to square one.
Regarding size, Tesla is in the midst of a complete re-engineering to downsize the truck from the original prototype, and to make many other changes, such as add a curved windshield, figure out how to handle the wiper(s), and possibly change the basic exoskeleton material, because it wasn't feasible anywhere near the price point objective, and beyond difficult from an engineering perspective. Another Elon promise that was over his skis. Bottom line is that Cybertruck is not a thing and won't be for at least a year, probably 2024. I have one on order, but will be driving my Lightning long before the Tesla.
That doesn't mean anything, pre-orders have been open worldwide since day one in November 2019, that statement was made in August 2020. Please post proof of it being retracted.
How did Panasonic identify problems with their pilot production line given it's not even built yet?
"Panasonic is currently aiming to start “test production” of those new 4680 cells at a plant in Japan in March 2022"
The idea of slightly reducing its size was ventilated but last I heard they decided otherwise:
“Reviewed design with Franz [von Holzhausen, Tesla’s chief designer] last night. Even 3% smaller is too small. Will be pretty much this size.”
Anyway the whole point being made was that the Cybertruck isn't any bigger than the F-150 Lightning, even in its original form.
Another unsubstantiated claim.
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