Will I even be able to get the 80Amp Charger installed?

[Mr. Flibble]

We have 200 Amp service to the house, and a full panel. We also have a small 100 Amp subpanel.

I can’t see how we could add another 100 Amp breaker to our house to use the Intelligent Backup Power system. Wouldn’t we be over our allotted power requirements for the house? (Disclaimer: I am not an electrician)

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[Notallthosewhowanderarelo]

Your breakers can add up to more than the main breaker. This is because you would almost never be using all branches of the circuit to their max. You just can't have a larger breaker than the main.

 

[Mr. Flibble]

Your breakers can add up to more than the main breaker. This is because you would almost never be using all branches of the circuit to their max. You just can't have a larger breaker than the main.

Thanks!!!!

 

[Drps10]

I’m in the same boat as you! All electric house here with electric baseboard heaters. I recently bought an Amp Clamp Meter to test my actual loads. I opened up the panel and made my kid help me. We loaded up the circuit (every light on, heaters a full blast, …) and took measurements. At the start up load and operating load. I wanted to see what my system could handle. I’m not comfortable running the 80 ( takes a 100 amp breaker) but I’m good 40 amp (60aml breaker). I want to buy a whole house energy monitor (sense energy monitor) and it will monitor the whole energy.

 

[Sundancer330]

You can always have the panel upgraded. I had a 100 amp panel in the basement but after building a outbuilding I upgraded to a 300 amp panel. We had to change the meter socket, free from the electric company then upgrade the wire to the new panel, cost was about $400

 

[jefro]

I have a so called smart meter at each home. The power companies offer me ways to monitor to some degree the amount of power I use. When I considered an EV I was rather afraid of over amping the panel. Come to find out I've never even reached half the panels load. It is worth it to find out what the home may use and what options one can do. To use the transfer panel I assume it is typical of home generators where one selects dedicated backup circuits rather than whole house transfer.

 

[Mr. Flibble]

I have a so called smart meter at each home. The power companies offer me ways to monitor to some degree the amount of power I use. When I considered an EV I was rather afraid of over amping the panel. Come to find out I've never even reached half the panels load. It is worth it to find out what the home may use and what options one can do. To use the transfer panel I assume it is typical of home generators where one selects dedicated backup circuits rather than whole house transfer.

You know, that is a really good point. I have my entire smart home wired up with Home Assistant, it would not be much effort for me to add energy monitoring to that (Home Assistant supports this) to be able to track each of my panels and the total load.

On a completely unrelated note, I should also be able to add the Lightning to my Smart Home setup, but that is a totally different thread.

 

[rydfree]

I use the Emporia Vue 2 monitoring system . For $149 it's an easy way to keep an eye on your energy use , plus you can daisy chain modules to expand if need be .

https://shop.emporiaenergy.com/coll...ucts/gen-2-emporia-vue-with-16-sensors-bundle

 

[Mr. Flibble]

I use the Emporia Vue 2 monitoring system . For $149 it's an easy way to keep an eye on your energy use , plus you can daisy chain modules to expand if need be .

https://shop.emporiaenergy.com/coll...ucts/gen-2-emporia-vue-with-16-sensors-bundle

Oh, that’s a nice bit of kit. It integrates with Home Assistant as well, which is perfect for my use case.

 

[Drps10]

I use the Emporia Vue 2 monitoring system . For $149 it's an easy way to keep an eye on your energy use , plus you can daisy chain modules to expand if need be .

https://shop.emporiaenergy.com/coll...ucts/gen-2-emporia-vue-with-16-sensors-bundle

Will it monitor while house useage? I’m talking about what you would use in a day/wk/month. I see it clamps on the main lines, but wasn’t sure if it will do the total useage.

 

[Fastnf]

Will it monitor while house useage? I’m talking about what you would use in a day/wk/month. I see it clamps on the main lines, but wasn’t sure if it will do the total useage.

I have one as well and yes it can monitor both total usage (whole house) while also monitoring individual circuits at the same time.

 

[rydfree]

Will it monitor while house useage? I’m talking about what you would use in a day/wk/month. I see it clamps on the main lines, but wasn’t sure if it will do the total useage.

Yes total usage of both incoming lines are at the top then each individual circuit displayed below . At the bottom you can select Per Second (in real time ) , per hour ,day , week and year . You can also select what value to display such as Amperage (as seen in my screenshot) , watts , dollar amount used etc . Lots of other features such as alerts if certain limits are exceeded or if a circuit is using more energy than normal etc .

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