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I hear you. And now we've got "drill drill drill" which was expected, but not attempting to halt using the funds that were already allotted and then next will be him threatening states that don't do so.
1000% this.
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Yeah shame the "funneling" of our taxes is on hold 😤

I figure the closer we got to the mandate in which I knew was never logically achievable that there would be a lot more infrastructure.
What mandate??
 

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Regardless of politics, the vilification of EV’s is just plain caveman brain. The incentives were pretty well thought out. When a model gets to a certain production number, the incentive decreases or disappears. To my way of thinking, this was an excellent adaption strategy.
I hope Ford’s focus on lower MSRP on future EV will greatly help. We need an electric Escape or Ranger as soon as possible. Farley in conjunction with others at Ford have really worked to set-up a long term model for success. I just hope they can see it through to fruition.
 

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American auto knows that they must transition to EV's ASAP in order to even have a remote chance at surviving and will continue moving forward with their plans.
I completely agree. I travel internationally and the general US population doesn't realize that EVs are going to take over. In some places they are everywhere. US automakers are going to lose the battle, and it's only a matter of time before the US makes the transition, albeit slower than a lot of countries.

The messaging of government support of EVs under the last administration was about climate change, which I think shot themselves in the foot. If they also promoted support as saving the US auto industry things may be very different. If our government subsidizes or otherwise encourages EV transition it's almost a win-win. Yes, there's environmental benefits. But a HUGE economic benefit. It helps automakers and adds jobs.
 

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I completely agree. I travel internationally and the general US population doesn't realize that EVs are going to take over. In some places they are everywhere. US automakers are going to lose the battle, and it's only a matter of time before the US makes the transition, albeit slower than a lot of countries.

The messaging of government support of EVs under the last administration was about climate change, which I think shot themselves in the foot. If they also promoted support as saving the US auto industry things may be very different. If our government subsidizes or otherwise encourages EV transition it's almost a win-win. Yes, there's environmental benefits. But a HUGE economic benefit. It helps automakers and adds jobs.
Makes a lot of sense. I am not from the US so I just can't wrap my head around the semantics of phrasing something so that each side of the political spectrum doesn't have a tantrum over making sure the other side is not winning at something, even though they themselves will lose in the end as well.

You are right though, if EV's were presented with the primary goal of not only saving the US auto industry but to fight China and be the global leader in EV's , things would be a lot different. It's pretty easy and is exactly the self perpetuating problem to "blame" the previous administration. EV's were out way before the previous administration. its also irrelevant how or when this became tied to climate change and politics in the US. The past is the past, previous administration is gone. The new administration could easily take credit by changing the narrative and doing exactly what you said and state, there is no time to lose. The American Auto industry is at war with China and we must double down to become a power house in the auto industry. Instead, it's the same old, blame the other side and make sure it fails. Then when the other side gets in power again, blame the other side for something else and self destruct somemore. It's actually quite ridiculous watching the US implode by the hate and division of its own people.

As you mentioned, EV's will be taking over the world, that tipping point already happened. The US can try to ignore it but it would be no different than the rest of the world transitioning to cars and the US being defiant and sticking with horses to save their ranchers. The US will eventually be forced to switch to EV's, the only thing that is still left undecided, with time running out fast, is if US auto will still be there when this happens.
 

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I’d never spend 5 figures in hopes that some future promise might come to fruition.
I bought the truck knowing how it fits my use case.
especially if the (our) Federal Government is making the promises!
 

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Do you know what they call someone not driving an Electric Vehicle after 2030?
PEDESTRIAN!
There is no version of reality anywhere on this planet where this is anything but a fantasy. And that is no more or less of a fantasy today than it was anytime in the last 4 or 8 years.
 

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Not here anyway. Better chance in Europe I think. And now is different.
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