How Tesla Fell To Earth

[RickLightning]

https://wallstreetjournal-ny.newsmemory.com/?publink=1b88a2108_134d23a

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[hturnerfamily]

my own take, and as an owner of 2 former LEAFS, sons with two BOLTS, a former 1/4 electric SORENTO PHEV, and now two fully electric/battery LIGHTNING and EV9, is that there is a point at which we have reached 'balance' in the 'EV transition', as some would call it:

What I mean is this: any 'new' type of technology tends to get attention. At first, it was the 'unknown' but exciting IDEA that somehow a 'battery only' car could propel us to places, without the need for gas.
Then, it was the real notion that these are actually WORKING, and now sportier and more luxurious models were available, and desirable to be seen driving. It was then no longer a Prius and Leaf world. Adoption and ownership of these vehicles became much more 'in the know' for early adopters, and those who had money, and those who had the 'means' to also install the necessary 'equipment', for at-home charging, to make it work.

Then, comes the reality. Owning an EV is not easy.
An EV, itself, is great. No oil, no gas, very, very little maintenance, yes, but it also comes with a high cost for some: Equipment and installation. At-home charging requires certain things to become a reality to make EV life really 'work', over the long-term.
So, the downside to this 'transition' is that we don't have those same options for the vast majority of vehicle owners... those in apartments, those with street parking, those with little 'know-how' when it comes to what it takes to be able to charge at home, etc. Even some of US have had our own issues and expenses with this, and the majority of those contemplating EV ownership probably are not ready to take this on, even if they have the places near their home to do it.

I think that EV ownership is MY future, yes, but I also realize that it's not for everyone. Not yet.

The real 'problem' with growth in the EV manufacturing world is the realities of the EV infrastructure. Right now, car ownership is easy. Park at your home. Find a gas station easily when you need power. For EV ownership, though, that reality is different.

 

[luebri]

“Fell to earth”?

their market valuation dwarfs every other auto maker still.

I do not get the constant Tesla hate and bias. none of you would be on this forum or have your vehicle if not for that company or their largest stockholder.

 

[TheJackel2013]

I think for a lot of people, what was once an admiration for his vision, has been replaced by disgust over his more public and recent pursuits.

Baron’s has a news article.

On the day of Teslas disaster of a Q1 deliveries report, Musk tweeted 52 times. Only 2 tweets were about Tesla. The other 50 were about politics, illegal imiigrants, race replacement theory, and other conspiracy theories

I think the cocaine is making him paranoid

To say that Tesla needs an adult running the company is an understatement

 

[Grumpy2]

I think for a lot of people, what was once an admiration for his vision, has been replaced by disgust over his more public and recent pursuits.

This exactly, the article describes his problem well. If Walt Disney was still around and put his name on the Model Y, we all would have a different opinion of the car and the manufacturer.

Of course, only old guys would even know there was a person called Disney !!

 

[Heliian]

I think the cocaine is making him paranoid

Ketamine is his drug of choice but same results.

Tesla is the Volkswagen beetle of EVs. The design doesn't change and it's basic. It's made acceptance of EVs more common.

Regardless of elons horrifying tweets and childish behaviour, he's a bold faced liar and con artist.

There is an obvious pattern now of overpromising and underdelivering, if delivering at all. Elizabeth Holmes went to jail for it and elon is close to absolutely crashing like Icarus.

Tesla Corp has always been overvalued but it's so common now in business that it's a norm. Reality is going to bring it back down where it should be eventually, a small loss is only the beginning.

 

[F150ROD]

As long as the die hard fans keep buying Tesla will never die.

The problem for Tesla is keeping new buyers who don't own stock in the company and have no brand loyalty. Their service centers, price increase and decrease every week is leaving a sour taste for those new buyers. Even some stock owners are buying other brands.

 

[bydabeach]

“Fell to earth”?

their market valuation dwarfs every other auto maker still.

I do not get the constant Tesla hate and bias. none of you would be on this forum or have your vehicle if not for that company or their largest stockholder.

Elon has become a popular punching bag because of what he has done with Twitter and some positions he has taken. Just like with musicians and actors, I separate the art from the artist. That aside, personally, I don't like the design elements of the Teslas, and the Cybertruck is horrific. I feel the same way about Apple products, but I admire the founders of both companies for what they have built/achieved.

 

[luebri]

Elon has become a popular punching bag because of what he has done with Twitter and some positions he has taken. Just like with musicians and actors, I separate the art from the artist. That aside, personally, I don't like the design elements of the Teslas, and the Cybertruck is horrific. I feel the same way about Apple products, but I admire the founders of both companies for what they have built/achieved.

agree

 

[PreservedSwine]

Which mod deleted my post. Please contact me and explain.

 

[sfringer]

I feel the same way about Apple products, but I admire the founders of both companies for what they have built/achieved.

Unlike Steve Wozniak and Steve Jobs, Elon did not found Tesla, he simply bought his way in.

 

[bydabeach]

Unlike Steve Wozniak and Steve Jobs, Elon did not found Tesla, he simply bought his way in.

I'm aware of that, however, Musk is considered one of five co-founders of Tesla by a court settlement. Musk became signed on and became Chairman of the Board eight months after the company was incorporated.

 

[ctuan13]

“Fell to earth”?

their market valuation dwarfs every other auto maker still.

I do not get the constant Tesla hate and bias. none of you would be on this forum or have your vehicle if not for that company or their largest stockholder.

I dislike their design philosophy, their approach to data privacy and their aggressively anti-right to repair company culture.

I cannot and have never argued with their manufacturing and sales prowess.

 

[dww]

I dislike their design philosophy, their approach to data privacy and their aggressively anti-right to repair company culture.

I cannot and have never argued with their manufacturing and sales prowess.

You can download their full service manuals for all their cars for free. If you make a custom EV you are most likely using their motors and their batteries. What is it that you can’t repair or don’t have access to?

 

[RickLightning]

I'm aware of that, however, Musk is considered one of five co-founders of Tesla by a court settlement. Musk became signed on and became Chairman of the Board eight months after the company was incorporated.

A settlement does not make it a fact. He isn't actually a co-founder. He bought the title.

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