Real consumption / range / efficiency thread … post your Macan EV performance 📊

[CandianPorsche83]

My brakes are quiet and I can only sense the friction engaging on the last moments before the car comes to a complete stop.

Hmmm got it. Sounds like another trip back to the dealer is in the books ...

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[byebye]

no noise here, sorry @CandianPorsche83

 

[Yves]

When you do attempt to slow down the Macan to standstill using regen does the brake "grunt" or make a noise? Mine does and it's super annoying and can only describe it as the car trying to decide whether it needs to apply physical brakes/brake hold. Not sure if this is normal or not ...

Most of the time it‘s on the electric motor and then the last meters you feel hear the physical brakes kicking in if you really pay attention and if you real slow down very slowly at the end, otherwise it’s hard to notice …

 

[CandianPorsche83]

Thanks guys! Helpful!

 

[SteveInKirkland]

When I read the comments about the difference between the brakes and regeneration in the Macan EV, I feel like I don't understand what other owners are talking about. In our Macan 4, my wife can never tell whether brakes or regeneration are stopping the car. I struggle to tell most of the time when we're driving the car. I think this may be different for Turbo owners with different brakes.

Also, we bought the car partially because it does not have OPD. Both of us don't like OPD and we like the coasting, which feels natural to us. The Audi SQ6's regenerative braking complexity just seemed awkward on every drive. My wife compared it to the unnecessary lurching she hated in the Teslas ... which we thought we might be able to get muscle memory to avoid but the Macan 4 was much more natural for us.

 

[cottony]

I have the indicator in the HUD, when coasting is off I always have immediate regen, if coasting is on, it’s not immediate (sometimes it is), so some of us wonder if that has an impact on efficiency / is it just a visual bug / …

i'm curious if it is a visual bug. i always have regen off so was kind of curious to see if i could reproduce the issue, but since my center gauge shows map, i used the PCM Trip tab to check if brake pedeal was triggering regen. i tried a few times and couldn't reproduce the issue -- everytime i braked, it showed green on the PCM

if you want to get to the bottom of this, maybe you could drive with both the center gauge and trip tab and cross-reference the two to see if there's mismatch? i would try it, but i can't reproduce the issue

 

[Yves]

i'm curious if it is a visual bug. i always have regen off so was kind of curious to see if i could reproduce the issue, but since my center gauge shows map, i used the PCM Trip tab to check if brake pedeal was triggering regen. i tried a few times and couldn't reproduce the issue -- everytime i braked, it showed green on the PCM

if you want to get to the bottom of this, maybe you could drive with both the center gauge and trip tab and cross-reference the two to see if there's mismatch? i would try it, but i can't reproduce the issue

I watch it in the HUD, I presume it’s the same then drivers gauge, so yes maybe I should look at the center screen.

 

[byebye]

I watch it in the HUD, I presume it’s the same then drivers gauge, so yes maybe I should look at the center screen.

@cottony

So I did some tests today. Short answer: coasting mode is a crappy mode, at least on my Turbo.

I’ve configured driver screen with the regen meter, and I’ve displayed on the central screen the energy animation with the car/battery/motors to monitor what happened.

1. Regen meter and central display energy animations are coherent. They both say the same thing at the same time. if there is a bug on the regen meter, it also impacts the energy animation on the central display.
2. During several kilometers, I’ve switched between both modes ( regen on and regen off/coasting). Regen was ALWAYS (almost) here on the regen mode. On the contrary, in coasting modem, sometimes yes, sometimes no when braking (to activate regen).
3. And at a time, when coasting was on, there were NO (nada!) regen when braking. I’ve switched to the regen mode, and regen was here again. I’ve made the switch between modes, and behavior was the same. Regen had disappeared in coasting mode!
4. When the regen meter said “no regen”, the kWh meter seemed coherent. So to me, regen was actually not present , it’s not a regen meter/display/probe issue.

As a conclusion: when in coasting mode, my specific Turbo tends to forget using the regen. Instead, it uses brakes Too often for no reason, and at least during a specific run, it was not using at all regen…

There is a problem with my Turbo: the regen is not reliable in coasting mode, and the car consumes too much energy in this mode as a consequence.

 

[byebye]

In the meantime, Turbo knows how to be efficient (mix highway, city, rural area)

 

[SteveInKirkland]

@cottony

So I did some tests today. Short answer: coasting mode is a crappy mode, at least on my Turbo.

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There is a problem with my Turbo: the regen is not reliable in coasting mode, and the car consumes too much energy in this mode as a consequence.

This may sound silly, but we likely need to know the SoC of the high voltage battery and (possibly) its max SoC when you run regeneration tests. If you believe the HUD/dash regeneration meter, my Macan 4 is rarely above 75% SoC with max set to 80% and it nearly always sees regeneration in coast mode plus brake pedal applied.

 

[byebye]

@SteveInKirkland take a look on the picture above: SoC between 71% and 61%
External temp was 15C, battery was 18C at the time of the tests.

 

[Petzi]

regen in regen mode, no regen or low regen in coast mode. always when breaking.
ok, but what is the problem exactly?

 

[alxman]

I stopped obsessing about those things and just enjoy driving my Macan as I please. Regardless of immediate regen or no regen, it’s averaging 3.1-3.3 mi/KWh in the warmer weather. More than enough for my needs!

 

[byebye]

regen in regen mode, no regen or low regen in coast mode.
ok, but what is the problem exactly?

No, this is not the way it’s designed, you’re wrong.
Whatever the mode, when you brake, under normal conditions, the car is supposed to use regen to brake, and IF it’s not enough to decelerate, it uses the (real) brakes On top of the regen.

Maybe you’re trying to troll me. In that case, it’s a win for you

 

[Yves]

@cottony

So I did some tests today. Short answer: coasting mode is a crappy mode, at least on my Turbo.

I’ve configured driver screen with the regen meter, and I’ve displayed on the central screen the energy animation with the car/battery/motors to monitor what happened.

1. Regen meter and central display energy animations are coherent. They both say the same thing at the same time. if there is a bug on the regen meter, it also impacts the energy animation on the central display.
2. During several kilometers, I’ve switched between both modes ( regen on and regen off/coasting). Regen was ALWAYS (almost) here on the regen mode. On the contrary, in coasting modem, sometimes yes, sometimes no when braking (to activate regen).
3. And at a time, when coasting was on, there were NO (nada!) regen when braking. I’ve switched to the regen mode, and regen was here again. I’ve made the switch between modes, and behavior was the same. Regen had disappeared in coasting mode!
4. When the regen meter said “no regen”, the kWh meter seemed coherent. So to me, regen was actually not present , it’s not a regen meter/display/probe issue.

As a conclusion: when in coasting mode, my specific Turbo tends to forget using the regen. Instead, it uses brakes Too often for no reason, and at least during a specific run, it was not using at all regen…

There is a problem with my Turbo: the regen is not reliable in coasting mode, and the car consumes too much energy in this mode as a consequence.

For me it’s just the first few brakes and then the rest of the day it works as advertised …
Yes the car is becoming more efficient now, finally, though something is strange, though the consumption numbers go down, my percentage drop on my daily commute hardly changes??!!

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