Lightning towed away from Electrify America charging station “after the EA charger fried my truck”

LUXMAN · Nov 29, 2022

https://www.motortrend.com/news/for...ugRxVDfE5EBAjOnFhim4EIypKjrSzJtMVEMI41aDLlBpk

I don't claim to know, but sounds like the charger is at fault here

Here is the Twitter link

Ford F-150 Lightning Lightning towed away from Electrify America charging station “after the EA charger fried my truck” FimnV-ZagAE8_nr

Ford F-150 Lightning Lightning towed away from Electrify America charging station “after the EA charger fried my truck” FimnV-ZacAI-ck8

F150ROD · Nov 29, 2022

Looks like the dealer is telling him they can’t diagnose because the 12v is dead and it’s a special order. They don’t know when it will be in …. What?

metroshot · Nov 29, 2022

Might it be the HVBJB (contactors) ?

Like the MME had with '21 and '22 GTs using L3 chargers ?

Wonder if Ford will be reimbursing the owner for a rental or flight back home ?

I am guessing that Ford field engineers are all summoned to OR ?

https://www.motortrend.com/news/for...3CzMpi4umiEmqVXToNCm8YAUVuEMU5u-NflHKCsS23qSA

Halbach · Nov 29, 2022

F150ROD said:
Looks like the dealer is telling him they can’t diagnose because the 12v is dead and it’s a special order. They don’t know when it will be in …. What?

I thought I heard it was a smallish (35ah?) SLA battery some time ago... while obviously not a long term solution I would think any SLA battery of approximately the same size would at least let them power on the truck.

boggle · Nov 29, 2022

inb4 Ford software locks allowable charge current to protect contactors. At least blasting them on Twitter elicits some kind of a response.

Right, @Ford Motor Company? How are those drive splines doing?

F150ROD · Nov 29, 2022

metroshot said:
Might it be the HVBJB (contactors) ?

Like the MME had with '21 and '22 GTs using L3 chargers ?

Wonder if Ford will be reimbursing the owner for a rental or flight back home ?

I am guessing that Ford field engineers are all summoned to OR ?

https://www.motortrend.com/news/for...3CzMpi4umiEmqVXToNCm8YAUVuEMU5u-NflHKCsS23qSA

I want to hear from EA also, did the station come back up or did it need a repair?

Maxx · Nov 29, 2022

I would rather two companies investigate together instead of finger pointing and letting us decide who to believe.

I was thinking of my Pro as a local tool with 99% home charging anyway.

Halbach · Nov 29, 2022

F150ROD said:
I want to hear from EA also, did the station come back up or did it need a repair?

I hope the plug at the station was at least marked with a "skull and crossbones" flag!

GoodSam · Nov 29, 2022

More: https://twitter.com/search?q=eric roe&src=typed_query&f=live

I wonder if Ford has Voltage surge protection devices? Maybe just a short in the wire path causing a protective device to blow?

How does a ~800Vdc? capable station (for those vehicles that can use it) provide just the ~400V need by our batteries? Or how is current regulated? Any links to a good detailed explainer how high voltage chargers and batteries are regulated to avoid problems? Also, I would guess the vehicle battery management system must read battery charge level by the voltage across the pack reaching predetermined Vdc set points for whatever percentage of charge is desired.

Halbach · Nov 30, 2022

GoodSam said:
More: https://twitter.com/search?q=eric roe&src=typed_query&f=live

I wonder if Ford has Voltage surge protection devices? Maybe just a short in the wire path causing a protective device to blow?

How does a ~800Vdc? capable station (for those vehicles that can use it) provide just the ~400V need by our batteries? Or how is current regulated? Any links to a good detailed explainer how high voltage charges and batteries are regulated to avoid problems?

I love seeing people curious about how things work, it is the only way to truly understand. As an engineer, it is the weak point in the comedy coated sarcastic shell I've created over the years.

My cheap bench top power supply can run in both CC (constant current) and CV (constant voltage) mode, the circuitry involved isn't earth shattering technology. With an EE101 book and a time machine to get some parts from RadioShack you could make an analog version before dinnertime.

As for batteries, I recommend reading https://batteryuniversity.com/articles until your eyes glaze over. It is a great resource to get started.

Pilot2022 · Nov 30, 2022

Halbach said:
I love seeing people curious about how things work, it is the only way to truly understand. As an engineer, it is the weak point in the comedy coated sarcastic shell I've created over the years.

My cheap bench top power supply can run in both CC (constant current) and CV (constant voltage) mode, the circuitry involved isn't earth shattering technology. With an EE101 book and a time machine to get some parts from RadioShack you could make an analog version before dinnertime.

As for batteries, I recommend reading https://batteryuniversity.com/articles until your eyes glaze over. It is a great resource to get started.

any links to good quality power supplies?

Alexsouthcleveland · Dec 1, 2022

Halbach said:
I love seeing people curious about how things work, it is the only way to truly understand. As an engineer, it is the weak point in the comedy coated sarcastic shell I've created over the years.

My cheap bench top power supply can run in both CC (constant current) and CV (constant voltage) mode, the circuitry involved isn't earth shattering technology. With an EE101 book and a time machine to get some parts from RadioShack you could make an analog version before dinnertime.

As for batteries, I recommend reading https://batteryuniversity.com/articles until your eyes glaze over. It is a great resource to get started.

Thanks for the link!

Meccanica · Dec 5, 2022

Owner of this Lightning is a big supporter of CCS.

Lightning towed away from Electrify America charging station “after the EA charger fried my truck”

LUXMAN

Well-known member

F150ROD

Well-known member

metroshot

Well-known member

Halbach

Well-known member

boggle

Well-known member

F150ROD

Well-known member

Maxx

Well-known member

Halbach

Well-known member

GoodSam

Well-known member

Halbach

Well-known member

Pilot2022

Well-known member

Alexsouthcleveland

Well-known member

Meccanica

Member

Similar threads