What's actually shows in the order guide is:
That is the old pre-release specs paperwork. I have that. I heard that the Ford guy on the third stream, which I missed, (from posts on Reddit) that he said the Pro and 311A trims will have key power.What's actually shows in the order guide is:
Intelligent Access with Push-Button Start (incl. Approach Detection and SecuriCode™ Keyless-Entry Keypad, Driver's Side)That's different than just push button start. According to the spec sheet it is standard:
I don't know what page you're looking at on the website, because the page at https://shop.ford.com/configure/f150-lightning/model/customize/pro never shows that.
The functionality/usability/intuitiveness really is shockingly horrible and it’s been that way for years. I don’t get it either. It’s almost like they never look at other websites to see how poorly they compare.
The Tech Specs on that page, is the same thing you can find here, which was published BEFORE the current ordering guide.
No need to continue speculating, there’s a ford customer service hotline for lightning. Call them, and get an answer from the horse’s mouth. 1 (800) 334-4375
That's not a given. Several manufacturers don't include cruise control on their base trims--even for EVs. It's no more or less electronics to implement it as standard across all vehicle trims but manufacturers don't for price segmentation (or who knows why if that's not the reason).
Happy wife, Happy Life! For my wife's Mach-e we jumped all the way up to a GT just to get the Cyber orange color she wanted (not that I am complaining - it is VERY fun to drive).That's not a given. Several manufacturers don't include cruise control on their base trims--even for EVs. It's no more or less electronics to implement it as standard across all vehicle trims but manufacturers don't for price segmentation (or who knows why if that's not the reason).
Also, while I agree all trims are more likely than not to come with some form of push button start people need to be aware of the packages aren't worded particularly well. After spending way too much time studying the forms it started to become clear that the Pro, even if it does have push-button start, won't have keyless entry nor phone as a key.
I believe XLT won't have keyless entry unless the $10K tech package is added. It's been a week since I read through it but if I'm wrong on that I'm correct in that the standard XLT won't have phone as a key.
Essentially, from my reading of it, you have to spend at least $60K to get a vehicle that you can drive with the key in your pocket or purse. We haven't even gotten into the seat controls or memory features, all of which have been in production vehicles for well over ten years. I imagine that's at least some of the reason Ford wasn't expecting for some many XLT and Pro orders as compared to their tech packaged trims and Lariats.
That analysis drove me into an $80K Lariat. I already tried the numbers game with the ID4 and, sadly, it became somewhat of a joke to my wife that the ID4 had less technology than her 10 year old Touareg save the EV propulsion. Some, no doubt, chuckle when they read I switched my configuration four times. But imagine this: every time I got off the phone with the dealership she asked me, "so it's got keyless like my Touareg, right?" Yes. "and I can't just leave the key in my purse when I'm loading the kids up, right?" Well...that's an extra $10K. ...back on the phone. "The seats are going to adjust personally for me when I have my key in my purse like my Touareg already does, right?" Well...that's going to be another trim level for another $10K...back on the phone. When it was all said and done (including a white tri-coat because the Touareg is black and we wouldn't want the same colored vehicles in the driveway oh no no no) there's nowhere left to go but to a Platinum that doesn't seem to add a whole lot and I'm afraid to take a closer read! At least I got back to a smoked quartz before orders started locking.
Basically what I'm saying is I spent an extra $20K so my wife can drive my truck and leave her $60K SUV in the driveway...but at least I won't wrack my legs into the steering wheel every time I hop into my seat!
Except for the Pro, its regular dumb cruise, with the additional tech (like AEB). Not sure what level of cruise control the XLT has with the 311A.That's not a given. Several manufacturers don't include cruise control on their base trims--even for EVs. It's no more or less electronics to implement it as standard across all vehicle trims but manufacturers don't for price segmentation (or who knows why if that's not the reason).
Also, while I agree all trims are more likely than not to come with some form of push button start people need to be aware of the packages aren't worded particularly well. After spending way too much time studying the forms it started to become clear that the Pro, even if it does have push-button start, won't have keyless entry nor phone as a key.
I believe XLT won't have keyless entry unless the $10K tech package is added. It's been a week since I read through it but if I'm wrong on that I'm correct in that the standard XLT won't have phone as a key.
Essentially, from my reading of it, you have to spend at least $60K to get a vehicle that you can drive with the key in your pocket or purse. We haven't even gotten into the seat controls or memory features, all of which have been in production vehicles for well over ten years. I imagine that's at least some of the reason Ford wasn't expecting for some many XLT and Pro orders as compared to their tech packaged trims and Lariats.
That analysis drove me into an $80K Lariat. I already tried the numbers game with the ID4 and, sadly, it became somewhat of a joke to my wife that the ID4 had less technology than her 10 year old Touareg save the EV propulsion. Some, no doubt, chuckle when they read I switched my configuration four times. But imagine this: every time I got off the phone with the dealership she asked me, "so it's got keyless like my Touareg, right?" Yes. "and I can't just leave the key in my purse when I'm loading the kids up, right?" Well...that's an extra $10K. ...back on the phone. "The seats are going to adjust personally for me when I have my key in my purse like my Touareg already does, right?" Well...that's going to be another trim level for another $10K...back on the phone. When it was all said and done (including a white tri-coat because the Touareg is black and we wouldn't want the same colored vehicles in the driveway oh no no no) there's nowhere left to go but to a Platinum that doesn't seem to add a whole lot and I'm afraid to take a closer read! At least I got back to a smoked quartz before orders started locking.
Basically what I'm saying is I spent an extra $20K so my wife can drive my truck and leave her $60K SUV in the driveway...but at least I won't wrack my legs into the steering wheel every time I hop into my seat!
