Lightning Towing Stats with my 23FB Airstream Trailer

[oneguynick]

so my brain doesnt explode, did you not get the LR version?

I did

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[williams]

I did

and youre getting 100 fully charged? on a long range

 

[oneguynick]

and youre getting 100 fully charged? on a long range

Towing the impact is about 50% reduction. So 150

 

[williams]

Towing the impact is about 50% reduction. So 150

ok, i was concerned that you were only getting 200 on a non trailered truck on a long range. I was about to start the auction on mine coming in august.

 

[Kev12345]

https://driveteslacanada.ca/news/ford-f-150-lightning-towing-stats/

 

[LightningShow]

Why? while traveling you'll be using 60-80% of your capacity between charge stops. You won't be driving from full until empty like a gas truck. 300 miles just turned into 220. Cut that in half for towing. Now you have just over 100 miles. Winter will be significantly less with no heat pump on board.

I would agree that all of your points need to be priority for gen2, especially higher charge speeds.

at the end of the day if you want to convince the masses to go electric the truck needs to be better than the ICE versions in every category. I'm excited to get my lightning but I don't plan on keeping it long term. I hope gen2 2025 is going to bring a much more complete package.

I simply disagree with your assessment of what’s needed to convince people go EV. Long haul towing isn’t a use case that Ford should be focusing on at all.

 

[Sklith]

Thanks for putting all your responses into the OP!

 

[oneguynick]

Thanks for putting all your responses into the OP!

Actually, the admin is doing that I think. @Administrator is keeping you all sane while I attempt to answer the questions

 

[Kev12345]

I simply disagree with your assessment of what’s needed to convince people go EV. Long haul towing isn’t a use case that Ford should be focusing on at all.

I remember the same thing when EV cars like the leaf starting coming around 10 years ago. "100 miles is all you need. The average person only drives 30 miles in a day". Of course 100 miles was absolutely fine for the early adopter that knew what he/she was getting into but that wasn't mass adoption. We're only just starting to break into normal people buying EV's today's with 200+mile cars.

I'm guessing most of us here are early adopters and are willing to take the towing drawbacks with all the positives that come with an EV pickup. I don't think that's enough to convince the masses. Trucks need twice the range of cars for the average joe to get on board.

 

[LightningShow]

I remember the same thing when EV cars like the leaf starting coming around 10 years ago. "100 miles is all you need. The average person only drives 30 miles in a day". Of course 100 miles was absolutely fine for the early adopter that knew what he/she was getting into but that wasn't mass adoption. We're only just starting to break into normal people buying EV's today's with 200+mile cars.

I'm guessing most of us here are early adopters and are willing to take the towing drawbacks with all the positives that come with an EV pickup. I don't think that's enough to convince the masses. Trucks need twice the range of cars for the average joe to get on board.

Long distance towing is a technical limitation and only a small portion of people truly needed it. ICE trucks will be available for those people for decades, of course they’ll eventually become too expensive to operate because of dwindling ICE infrastructure and taxation but there’s no need for EV mfgs to chase that market. Eventually it will come to them whether people want it or not. When gas is $20/gal and there’s a yearly $2000 gas vehicle surcharge, people will come around to the idea of stopping to charge every 100-150 miles.

 

[beatle]

Full size truck buyers don't always buy the truck they need to do what they want to do; they buy the truck they want because of the potential things they might want to do or tell people they can do. I have a Ridgeline which is incredibly capable for a lot of truck stuff, but Honda sells almost none of them because it doesn't fit most of the demographic (yeah, I guess I'm weird).

Time will tell if EV truck manufacturers hit an adoption wall for EV trucks if they can't get the towing numbers up. I'm sure that'll happen eventually, but probably not anytime soon.

 

[Easycamper]

Full size truck buyers don't always buy the truck they need to do what they want to do; they buy the truck they want because of the potential things they might want to do or tell people they can do.

This is correct.

 

[LightningShow]

Full size truck buyers don't always buy the truck they need to do what they want to do; they buy the truck they want because of the potential things they might want to do or tell people they can do. I have a Ridgeline which is incredibly capable for a lot of truck stuff, but Honda sells almost none of them because it doesn't fit most of the demographic (yeah, I guess I'm weird).

Time will tell if EV truck manufacturers hit an adoption wall for EV trucks if they can't get the towing numbers up. I'm sure that'll happen eventually, but probably not anytime soon.

I don’t think that’s a special property of full size truck buyers.

 

[beatle]

I don’t think that’s a special property of full size truck buyers.

That is also correct!

 

[vandy1981]

It's 70 miles max with SR and his trailer in the summer, why keep adding to it (now it's 80??) then tack on winter etc.. It's going to be 50 miles in the winter.

Are you just making numbers up? Or have you been secretly testing Lightnings over the last 12 months?

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