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  1. F-150 Lightning EV Tax Credits & Rebates - Discussions & Predictions

    Yep, that's the problem. It's always talks with these bloated asshats, especially as you approach election cycles.
  2. Has anyone actually ordered Fleet lightnings?

    Also consider that messing up a fleet's first impression not only ruins it for the fleet purchase decision-maker, but also the people who would be operating the vehicles that may consider buying one for personal use. If Ford gets it right, they can win fleet sales and retail sales at the same time.
  3. Transition to EV, why Ford/GM still need dealers to sell the trucks?

    Do we live in the same USA? No way in hell that'll ever pass.
  4. Rivian like slide-out kitchen?

    Sir, do you have time to talk about our lord and savior Mega Power Frunk with a drain plug? ;)
  5. Transition to EV, why Ford/GM still need dealers to sell the trucks?

    Do also consider that used cars aren't going anywhere, and not everyone will need or want to replace a car with a brand new one.
  6. 2022 Lightning Pro sold out [update: confirmed]

    I see countless people asking about glass roofs in the hot sun on the MME and EV subs and a lot of owners reply back from Arizona or Texas or Florida stating that they can't feel a difference at all unless they put their hand physically on the glass. So I'm not worried about the glass in full...
  7. Maverick as an interim vehicle?

    For my sake I hope they are. However, when I ordered last week they were still citing 20 weeks for Select and 28+ weeks for everything else.
  8. Granger Says They Have 2 Lightnings Allocated

    I signed up for updates last year but haven't heard a single peep out of the dealership other than a follow-up email a day or two later thanking me for my interest and stating they don't know when to expect the vehicle but will let me know when it's available. So as far as I'm concerned that's...
  9. 2022 Lightning Pro sold out [update: confirmed]

    As long as it helps the stock price, have at it!
  10. Granger Says They Have 2 Lightnings Allocated

    The center console is what really gave me pause. I'm still confused why it's so large that the second cupholder had to be put inside the [tiny] storage compartment. That and the baffling inclusion of a massive hump in the back row floor. But otherwise I really enjoyed driving it, and I was...
  11. Ford Lightning Ordering Experience Survey

    I have a feeling that they've been lurking in the shadows and they already know exactly what they'd get from us!
  12. Granger Says They Have 2 Lightnings Allocated

    I'm not the person you quoted, but for me personally it's the best EV out there under $65k, even with its many flaws (just browse the Mach-E subreddit). I've literally been putting hours of research in every week since September. Ford's at least attempting OTA updates, even if it's still bad...
  13. 2022 Lightning Pro sold out [update: confirmed]

    Hey bud, you've got some brown stuff on your nose right there.
  14. what's your disappointment so far on what Ford Lightning has to offer

    We have maybe two or three outages per year and crazy inexpensive electricity, even at the co-op renewable rate. I'm not interested in how good a deal this is versus a Powerwall. It's a nice feature to be sure, but I'm buying this thing to be a vehicle.
  15. what's your disappointment so far on what Ford Lightning has to offer

    That's where I'm at. This has been death by a thousand papercuts. Individually (or even just a few selectively), the issues with the marketing and reservation process aren't too bad. But the sum of it all makes for an extremely disappointing feeling for me personally. It wouldn't hurt as much...
  16. Granger Says They Have 2 Lightnings Allocated

    Yeah, I'm likely going to pick one up for around town trips. Most of our stores are within about 5 miles. Unfortunately, these last two snow storms reminded me that it would be difficult to use all winter, but spring-fall I can just use that.
  17. Granger Says They Have 2 Lightnings Allocated

    This is my feeling as well. If it were a PHEV with a larger battery I probably would've gone with that as a stopgap. Instead, I finally got fed up with this whole process and rewarded Ford with a Mach-E order. All of my excitement turned to exhaustion with this debacle. I'll wait until ordering...
  18. 2022 Lightning Pro sold out [update: confirmed]

    This guy is a waste of time.
  19. 2022 Lightning Pro sold out [update: confirmed]

    It's easy for people to forget about the cold weather in much of the country when the coldest temps they see are 50 F on a bad day.


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