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  1. XLT with ER starts at $74,169 glitch ?!?

    It has to be a glitch. Lariat 511A is the ER trim at $10,000 for the package, dropping to a 510A pushes you to the SR only. For the XLT it is the same situation, 311A is SR but to go 312A ER it is a 19,500 jump? something is wrong for sure.
  2. MY2022 Lightning production estimates - further consideration

    Thank you Pioneer, great to hear from someone with direct knowledge. Any opinion on what 2022 numbers will actually be? 15k seems light but ramp up is always a challenge. Also model year changeover May shorten things?
  3. Am I crazy or brilliant

    This was my answer. When the lightning hits showroom floors and if gas prices remain higher then folks will be looking for the next best thing. ADM of a lightning sitting on the lot or msrp/slight depreciation of a powerboost. a raptor could tank in value if gas goes up any more, think early...
  4. Dealers asking for $5K - $30K ADM markup on 2022 F150 Lightning!

    all dealers can see where their customers are on the dealer list. If they know 65 they know where you are within that. Now they may have prioritized people ahead of you and are being suspect to tell you. I would nail down reservation spot for the dealer and adm commitment, if neither is possible...
  5. Lightning Allocations Are Out!?

    just sent a note to my buddy at the dealer, hopefully there is good news. I'm 14th out of 367 so it is borderline depending on allocation numbers.
  6. Ford email confirms F-150 Lightning orders starting at “beginning of the new year”

    agreed but I was surprised with the bronco numbers. also I don't know what the target is for their manufacturing, found another chart that said they did 99 january, 87 feb, 127 march, 437 in april and the 1069 in may. also the mach-e production has fallen since june each month. is that parts...
  7. Dealers asking for $5K - $30K ADM markup on 2022 F150 Lightning!

    is it a local dealer? take an hour or two to swing in and talk with the sales manager. scorched earth option is to find the top 2-4 folks email addresses at the dealership and send an info request. I was working with a regular salesman for a bit and decided to stop in to discuss. Ended up...
  8. Ford email confirms F-150 Lightning orders starting at “beginning of the new year”

    hence the 'unofficial' portion of my statement. As discussed on the other forums Model Year and Production Year don't align, job 1 date has to be some time after the order entry process. Taking the regular ford F150 ordering process as a guide order banks opened 9/15/21, scheduling was 10/14 and...
  9. Ford email confirms F-150 Lightning orders starting at “beginning of the new year”

    Unofficial estimates are 10-15k for MY2022. They have marketed 55k for MY2023 and 80k MY2024.
  10. MY2022 Lightning production estimates - further consideration

    So production numbers have been debated significantly on this forum but I haven't heard anyone mention the MY does not equal Build Year consideration. Latest unverified forecast is 10,000-15,000 for MY2022 and 80,000 MY2023 which seems like a huge increase for YOY production, however, most...
  11. ? Official Info: F-150 Lightning Reservations to Order Conversion & Invitation Process. Dealer Pricing Options

    They literally go into the system and change your dealer reservation slot from let’s say #57 and I’m #23, the dealer can copy that over or reprioritize it with you as #1 and only move me up to #6. Not all prioritizing has to be 1-10 based on the dealer info book.
  12. 2022 Lightning Battery Capacity = 98 kWh Standard Range and 131 kWh Extended Range + Trims Comparison Chart

    what an insightful piece of literature Jim, so glad you took the time to make an account and use this as your first ever post. The thing is this truck is not intended to do the things your typical RV hauling rigs do, there is literally a truck for all occasions and the lightning isn’t expected...
  13. ? Official Info: F-150 Lightning Reservations to Order Conversion & Invitation Process. Dealer Pricing Options

    this is correct, just because a dealer has 100+ reservations and prioritizes 25 people it does not guarantee the dealer will get allocation for 25 or more 2022 trucks. Makes the Koons offer that much funnier, they are prioritizing 10 people for $30k ADM but there is no guarantee they get 10...
  14. F-150 Lightning EV Tax Credits & Rebates - Discussions & Predictions

    Hence the TAX LIABILITY. same example above single/no kids 100k salary owing $15,000 in tax liability but only paid $13,000. Now you buy the truck and it qualifies for a $7,500 credit. that goes into the credits calculation and reduces your tax LIABILITY from $15,000 to $7,500, HOWEVER, you paid...
  15. ? Official Info: F-150 Lightning Reservations to Order Conversion & Invitation Process. Dealer Pricing Options

    it has holes when looking at the really low reservation numbers and Ford isn't saying anything on the number vs time stamp submission but a lower number has shown to be more common for early reservations than later.
  16. F-150 Lightning EV Tax Credits & Rebates - Discussions & Predictions

    not really Ken, your tax liability is how much total tax you owe to the government every year, not how much you owe or get refunded based on deductions/credits. You are stating you are going to adjust your W4 exemptions or filing status so that each paycheck has less income tax withdrawn but it...
  17. ? Official Info: F-150 Lightning Reservations to Order Conversion & Invitation Process. Dealer Pricing Options

    problem is we don't know if you switch dealers today does that put you at the end of that dealer's reservation list or do you slot into the position based on their Ford reservation number? If the first then knowing your current dealer might take priority selection doesn't gain you anything as...
  18. ? Official Info: F-150 Lightning Reservations to Order Conversion & Invitation Process. Dealer Pricing Options

    uh.......not great I would guess. Again the reservation numbers and timestamps previously discussed on this forum have us all believe they started somewhere around 10810000 so that will put you right about 50,000 on the reservation list. My assumption would be to get a MY22 you would need to...
  19. ? Official Info: F-150 Lightning Reservations to Order Conversion & Invitation Process. Dealer Pricing Options

    Eh, if every dealer used the priority system then it could affect the first year reservations but I bet a majority of dealers aren't going to play the game, especially to the tune of 25 priority bumps. You certainly will have some that favor certain customers who already do volume with them or...


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