Cybertruck Delayed Again - No new ETA

[GarageMahal]

Ford Authority article snippet:

The Tesla Cybertruck was revealed back in 2019, and the all-electric pickup was originally slated to launch by the end of 2021. However, that date was later pushed to 2022 and then late 2022, with production expected to fully ramp up in 2023. Now that 2022 has arrived, Tesla mysteriously removed any mention of the Cybertruck’s potential launch date from its official site, merely saying that reservation holders “will be able to complete your configuration as production nears.”

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[FXDR131]

Ford Authority article snippet:

The Tesla Cybertruck was revealed back in 2019, and the all-electric pickup was originally slated to launch by the end of 2021. However, that date was later pushed to 2022 and then late 2022, with production expected to fully ramp up in 2023. Now that 2022 has arrived, Tesla mysteriously removed any mention of the Cybertruck’s potential launch date from its official site, merely saying that reservation holders “will be able to complete your configuration as production nears.”

That truck looks like a Delorean and a Pontiac Aztec had a baby.

 

[CoyoteJim]

So Tesla is supposed to announce a "product roadmap" for the Cybertruck on 1/26 after the bell, including design and price changes. Looks aside, just going by specs, there are some compelling reasons to get a Cybertruck vs. the Lightning. I'm a low res holder for both and could possibly be in wave 2 which would have emails sent out a week before the Tesla announcement. But I'm only interested in the dual motor CT which I'm sure will be delayed until at least mid 2023.

	Lightning Pro SR	Cybertruck
Hauling	2000 lbs	3500 lbs (est)
	onboard scales	(unknown)
	aluminum box	30x stainless steel box
Towing	8,000 lbs	10,000 lbs
	tow tech pkg	(unknown)
Loading	5.5' bed	6.5' bed (may have changed with redesign)
	flat sides	sloped sides, side loading possibly awkward
	no midgate	possibly a midgate
	optional step gate	built-in ramp(?)
	large powered frunk	(unknown)
Security	optional tonneau	covered vault with retractable tonneau
Onboard power	optional 9kW w/ 220 v	will have it, specs unknown
	optional V2H home backup	(unknown)
Charging speed	max 150kW, slow	with 4680 cells possibly 300kW or better, fast
Range	230 miles	300 miles
Availability	Summer/Fall '22	Summer/Fall '23 or longer
Price	Under $50k, Fed tax rebate	Probably over $50k

For me those are the big items...plushness inside and looks I don't care so much about. Just wondering if anyone else is weighing these two choices and what they are thinking.

 

[sotek2345]

The Dual motor is likely delayed far beyond 2023, if it is ever made. They already said they are starting with the quad motor, the then tri motor, with the dual motor coming last. Assuming they start deliveries in 2023 (in question), that would put the dual motor around 2025 - right around the launch of the Gen 2 Lightning.

 

[Kev12345]

also have a cybertruck res and I'm in the same boat as you looking at dual motor vs lightning xlt. I doubt the tri-motor exists but agree the dual motor trucks will be pushed well into 2023 probably 2024.

 

[shocker]

The Dual motor is likely delayed far beyond 2023, if it is ever made. They already said they are starting with the quad motor, the then tri motor, with the dual motor coming last. Assuming they start deliveries in 2023 (in question), that would put the dual motor around 2025 - right around the launch of the Gen 2 Lightning.

I read from Musk tweets it's Plaid, quad motor, dual motor. Given T's history... the base dual motor will be delayed to the point where people give up on waiting and order it with expensive options like 4 wheel steering. Those of us who were excited by seeing $50K at the 2019 reveal, have to be realistic and that number will be more like 70.

 

[CoyoteJim]

The Dual motor is likely delayed far beyond 2023, if it is ever made. They already said they are starting with the quad motor, the then tri motor, with the dual motor coming last. Assuming they start deliveries in 2023 (in question), that would put the dual motor around 2025 - right around the launch of the Gen 2 Lightning.

You are probably right about the production dates. In all likelihood the decision will be made for me...either I won't be in the first few waves or the Pro will be sold out, etc. If the Pro is sold out and the the dual motor CT is delayed I suppose I could defer my reservation until they announce the Gen 2 Lightning specs and compare that against the CT.

 

[Pedaldude]

By the time Cybertruck is shipping, this thing will be ready:

 

[F150ROD]

By the time the CT comes out Ford will be announcing the 2nd gen Lightning

 

[Sklith]

The base dual motor Cybertruck has about the same chance to exist as the standard range (not plus) Model 3.

 

[Kev12345]

Does Ford have deals with multiple battery and raw material suppliers? LG chem is currently supplying the batteries for Mach-e and they struck the deal with SK for future battery development but Tesla seems to have a head start on this front. Deals with multiple cell suppliers like Panasonic and CATL plus building their own now. And they’re currently cutting deals with raw material suppliers of lithium, nickel and graphite. Future of cars depends on who controls the supply chain. Get on it Ford!

 

[CoyoteJim]

Does Ford have deals with multiple battery and raw material suppliers? LG chem is currently supplying the batteries for Mach-e and they struck the deal with SK for future battery development but Tesla seems to have a head start on this front. Deals with multiple cell suppliers like Panasonic and CATL plus building their own now. And they’re currently cutting deals with raw material suppliers of lithium, nickel and graphite. Future of cars depends on who controls the supply chain. Get on it Ford!

Yes, the batteries in the Lightning are supposed to be SK's NCM 9-1/2-1/2, I think at least through to the gen 2 version. Idk how many SK can supply, though. If Tesla gets 4680 production going expect the Cybertruck production timeline to get moved up...as you say, they already have agreements for the raw materials in place.

 

[broncoaz]

Wasn’t the $40K Cybertruck a 2wd stripper version and the 4x4 was $50K? Seems like the Lightning Pro with 4x4 standard is a much better value at $40K especially if you get the tax rebate. I’m sticking with my first wave Pro order. If the Cybertruck exists later and is significantly better I can always upgrade.

 

[sotek2345]

Wasn’t the $40K Cybertruck a 2wd stripper version and the 4x4 was $50K? Seems like the Lightning Pro with 4x4 standard is a much better value at $40K especially if you get the tax rebate. I’m sticking with my first wave Pro order. If the Cybertruck exists later and is significantly better I can always upgrade.

Yes, and it has since been cancelled.

 

[GolfR]

I read from Musk tweets it's Plaid, quad motor, dual motor. Given T's history... the base dual motor will be delayed to the point where people give up on waiting and order it with expensive options like 4 wheel steering. Those of us who were excited by seeing $50K at the 2019 reveal, have to be realistic and that number will be more like 70.

I have a feeling you don’t have enough digits in your numbers. My guess is that the reasonably equipped version of the cyber truck will top 100k pretty easily.

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