Ford’s F-150 Lightning is falling behind Tesla’s Cybertruck in deepening EV crisis

[No Oil HaHa]

A 200 kWh battery pack (Silverado, I’m looking at you) doesn’t make sense for most people’s use cases, though of course it does for some.

There are a lot of pick up trucks used in California agriculture and most wouldn’t dream of making the switch with anything below a 200kw. Battery size is a much bigger complaint among my peers than any perceived EV hatred.

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[WaterboyNorCal]

There are a lot of pick up trucks used in California agriculture and most wouldn’t dream of making the switch with anything below a 200kw. Battery size is a much bigger complaint among my peers than any perceived EV hatred.

How many agriculture trucks are driving over 300 highway miles a day? Obviously there are edge cases, but I maintain that for most people who aren’t planning to tow an RV, a 200kWh battery is not necessary.

 

[No Oil HaHa]

How many agriculture trucks are driving over 300 highway miles a day? Obviously there are edge cases, but I maintain that for most people who aren’t planning to tow an RV, a 200kWh battery is not necessary.

I don’t have specific numbers but you’re communicating with someone who does. I’ve put 40k on my Lightning in 10 months and another 10k on my ICE F-150. There are too many PCAs, field men and chemical applicators who put 60k plus a year on a pickup. These people want a truck that they can get in the morning and not have to stop until the end of the day. They don’t have time in the middle of their harvest season to stop and charge or even worse, go out of their way to charge.
I have an ER and the closest I’ve come to the epa range is 270 miles.
I’m not trying to change your opinion but to point out that most truck owners don’t share it.
I’ve only come across 2 people who are partisan enough not to buy an EV truck because of what some blabbermouth on the radio says about them. Every other person says the battery isn’t big enough and they are waiting for better technology.

 

[RickKeen]

I don’t have specific numbers but you’re communicating with someone who does. I’ve put 40k on my Lightning in 10 months and another 10k on my ICE F-150. There are too many PCAs, field men and chemical applicators who put 60k plus a year on a pickup.

How many is that market, really?
If 200kWh battery was the answer, how come they are not all buying the GM with the big battery?

 

[No Oil HaHa]

How many is that market, really?
If 200kWh battery was the answer, how come they are not all buying the GM with the big battery?

Again, I’m not going to get into more specific numbers but a lot more than you assume. I work in the top 3 ag producing counties in America by gross receipts. They contribute over $24 billion dollars annually to the economy. It takes a lot of guys in a lot of trucks playing a part to bring all that produce to market.

As far as your second question. Who wants to buy a Chevy anyways. Haha! Seriously, I think price plays a role in that as well but I am running into more and more Silverados and Lightnings being purchased by large corporations in my travels. Time will tell…

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