Massachusetts - Vehicle to X Program

[Howard_Scott_Warshaw]

FYI to all MA residents, the Clean Energy Center just opened up the application portal for their new Vehicle-to-everything demo program. Best guess is if you're chosen, they put in a new EVSE capable of backfeed, and you get some incentives kicked back for helping squash grid peaks. Only Lightnings and Leafs are listed as eligible vehicles.

https://www.masscec.com/masscec-foc...structure/vehicle-to-everything-demonstration

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[f150lex]

Thank you!

 

[G-Zeus]

I'd consider it but I have a direct line from the street feeding my charger, so I wouldn't be able to benefit from the bi-directional capabilities to power my house during an outage.

 

[frost22]

Thanks, I applied! A big reason I wanted the Lightning was to power the house if we lost power and also V2G capabilities!

 

[Howard_Scott_Warshaw]

I'd consider it but I have a direct line from the street feeding my charger, so I wouldn't be able to benefit from the bi-directional capabilities to power my house during an outage.

1. How in the heck did you get the utility to give you a service drop for just an EVSE?
2. I'd bet your scenario would make you MORE likely to be selected. The program is trying to determine how big of an impact dispatching EV batteries can have on helping the grid during peaks. Having no load on the service would ensure all the kWh are pushed directly to the grid.
3. This program isn't about backup power during an outage.

Party on Garth.

 

[f150lex]

Thanks, I applied! A big reason I wanted the Lightning was to power the house if we lost power and also V2G capabilities!

Me too, or at least that's what piqued my interest. Then I realized a) how expensive it was, and b) how proprietary it was. If it were just the expense, I think I would have moved forward with it, but the risk that I'd have to throw away thousands as soon as I changed EVs kept me from doing any installation.

 

[G-Zeus]

1. How in the heck did you get the utility to give you a service drop for just an EVSE?
2. I'd bet your scenario would make you MORE likely to be selected. The program is trying to determine how big of an impact dispatching EV batteries can have on helping the grid during peaks. Having no load on the service would ensure all the kWh are pushed directly to the grid.
3. This program isn't about backup power during an outage.

Party on Garth.

1. Local town utility. I had capacity at the main box on the house, the electrician branched off of that into another box before the meter, and the utility had to both temporarily shut off the power at the street and then slap another meter on the new box. I did this for a couple of reasons: 1) my main meter is on a solar co-gen plan, while the town also offers an amazing EV charging plan. can't have both on the same meter, so branching off the line from the street into a new meter gives me the best of both options (for a not-so-small fee to the electrician for all of that, but now I have 2 60A lines coming into the garage for parallel charging!)

2. I don't want to lose my precious battery power randomly to the town. I'm already helping them out by sending solar power back to them. If there is an outage, I selfishly want the power coming to me, or staying in my truck so I can get out and do some stuff in an emergency.

3. Ok now that makes sense. I probably should have done more reading! And in that case, my town utility is likely not participating in that program anyway.

Always a party. Especially without Wayne. He's a jerk.

 

[frost22]

Me too, or at least that's what piqued my interest. Then I realized a) how expensive it was, and b) how proprietary it was. If it were just the expense, I think I would have moved forward with it, but the risk that I'd have to throw away thousands as soon as I changed EVs kept me from doing any installation.

Those sunrun stories were terrible. Those guys come by my house all the time asking if I want solar and say I have their car (the Lightning). I say "not interested, get off my property."

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