Nokian Hakkapeliitta R5 SUV 116T snow tires installed - first impressions and range result

[Fastmikerx7]

Well, I live in the PNW(East of Seattle) and drive in the snow/ice/cold enough to need something WAY more capable than the General "Grabber" HTS 60's.
I am not sure why they named those tires "Grabber" since they don't really grab the road imo.
OK in dry. Sketchy in wet and cold.
Once in light snow was enough. YIKES.

Last winter was not really a winter here but this year is supposed to be "better imo" since I like the snow/cold.
https://www.noaa.gov/media-release/us-winter-outlook-cooler-north-warmer-south-with-ongoing-la-nina

I have used dedicated winter tires on separate rims for all my daily drivers since the first Blizzak came out which was MANY years ago. Dedicated snows made my rigs pretty much unstoppable in snow/ice of the types we get here and where I travel to.

I got a set of very low mile takeoff OEM wheels/OEM Goodyears/TPMS sensors from another owner for $850(he did the new rim/tire/leveling "off road" thing) so I am saving those for spring and trashing the 22K mile Generals for the Nokians.

These Nokians will be my winter tires for a few years at least since I take them on and off based off weather.
I am a few weeks early on this install but the General's are sucking in the cold/rain and it is raining plenty and getting cold but not to 32F yet in the AM.

Hopefully the Goodyears will be an improvement over the Generals. I seriously doubt they are going to be worse..

Anyhow, back to the Nokians..
Interesting sticker on the tires. Says they don't use much "fuel" so that is good.
Also say not at the top of list for "wet" so that is not great but as I said before, I don't know how they could be worse than 22k Generals that are WAY over half worn...

It will be interesting to see what they do for, or against, efficiency.

I am currently at 2.4 mi/kwh over 22K miles but that is mostly city or driving in traffic with some longer trips.
Daily commute is 26 miles round trip.
Dealer reset my lifetiime odo doing software updates grrr.... but it has stayed right at or very near 2.4 for the truck's life.
23 Lariat SR non sunroof. I have towed a couple of times but not too much.

I preheat in the AM/keep tires pumped up etc and maybe my toneau helps or maybe it doesn't with the type of driving I do.

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[Fastmikerx7]

So, I drove 170 miles yesterday. Cold and mostly raining, sometimes heavily.

Almost 80% highway miles which is odd for me. Stayed above 60mph for most of those miles.

2.2 mile/kwh so I think that is pretty darn good for dedicated snows for that many hwy miles with the heat on.

They are head and shoulders above the "grabbers" in the wet and are basically as quiet as the grabbers just a bit different on sharp bumps(they do kind of a snare drum thump) and ride nicely.

I do have them pumped up to 50psi so maybe that explains the quiet thump?

So far, so good.

 

[Bandit216]

Mine were installed Friday. The roads are very icy here in Alaska right now, but based on some very limited driving, they appear to be head and shoulders better than the factory installed all terrain tires I've skated around on for the last two years.

 

[Fastmikerx7]

Yup. There is nothing like dedicated snow tires, especially when it gets icy and the ice gets a water layer on top of it. These things shine in those conditions and rock it in the snow too.

 

[21st Century Truck]

Yup. There is nothing like dedicated snow tires, especially when it gets icy and the ice gets a water layer on top of it. These things shine in those conditions and rock it in the snow too.

Agreed from personal experience on several sedans, in the US and in Europe.

I think the common "snow tires" name for these Winter tires is an unfortunate misnomer. Although there is some benefit in snow, their true benefit is in their much softer cold weather rubber compounds, which in turn makes them reliably stick to the road below about 36 -40 degrees F and on down into the single digits, even if there is zero snow present. All-season tire rubber compounds begin to lose traction (grip) far faster in lower temps, while Summer tires might as well be carved out of hard plastic under low temps.

 

[kstevens]

I installed a set of these on a dedicated set of American Racing wheels and ran them last winter. This is the first non-studded winter tire I’ve ever bought in northern VT - I just couldn’t bear to give up the incredibly quiet ride. One year impressions: obviously way better than all seasons, but still a far cry from studs. Incredibly quiet for a winter, great handling at 44 psi. When the freezing rain comes and driveway turns to ice though, these just aren’t enough. I’m hoping that when I need another set I’ll be over the noise and ready to go back to the real thing.

 

[pullinggs]

I envy you folks in that you can run dedicated snow tires.

I live at ~4200' elevation, but "town" is down around 1200'. I can have 2 feet of snow to deal with here, but find high 50's and sunshine in town. It's nice in that I can drive 30 minutes and leave winter behind, but the last 10 miles getting home can be brutal.

I'm still on the OEM tires (Goodyears, ~16K miles) and I'm ferschmeckled about what to do when I need to replace them.

 

[Fastmikerx7]

Well, range avg. is climbing and is up to 2.3 which is great since I have had heat on a bunch.

I am very happy with the tires.

As I wrote before, the improvement over the General Grabbers in the cold and/or wet-cold is massive. MUCH better.

Might even be better than the 2 year old 22k mile "Grabbers" in the dry at 50F. They aren't worse.

 

[It's Just Me]

I had the Hakkas last winter. First time I have had winter tires on any of my vehicles. This winter will be winter number three. I've loved the damned things. I have dirt roads all around me and while my town does a great job at plowing.......

I have tried to break the truck loose. I just really can't do it. I've tried on plowed and unplowed roads from a stop and even accelerating, the truck just doesn't want to break or slide much. If I am going from a dead stop the back end wobbles just enough to notice and then off like a rocket on rails.

Mileage was comparable to the OEMs I had, though now I can't compare well since I have a more aggressive Nokian Outpost on, and when I am on the highway there is a noticeable but not horrible decrease in range.

 

[VTRedWingsFan]

I installed a set of these on a dedicated set of American Racing wheels and ran them last winter. This is the first non-studded winter tire I’ve ever bought in northern VT - I just couldn’t bear to give up the incredibly quiet ride. One year impressions: obviously way better than all seasons, but still a far cry from studs. Incredibly quiet for a winter, great handling at 44 psi. When the freezing rain comes and driveway turns to ice though, these just aren’t enough. I’m hoping that when I need another set I’ll be over the noise and ready to go back to the real thing.

I'm in Chittenden county. Where did you get yours? thx

 

[kstevens]

I'm in Chittenden county. Where did you get yours? thx

Point S in Morrisville is a Nokian dealer. Looks like there's one in Williston. Bought them there but then had them mounted and road force balanced at Lamoille Valley Ford. If you love the factory ride, highly recommend road force balancing. Sooooo smooth and quiet

 

[VTRedWingsFan]

Point S in Morrisville is a Nokian dealer. Looks like there's one in Williston. Bought them there but then had them mounted and road force balanced at Lamoille Valley Ford. If you love the factory ride, highly recommend road force balancing. Sooooo smooth and quiet

Thanks, did not know the name, but I know the location. Not familiar with road force balancing. time do research on that.

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