First Dyno Results (565 Wheel HP and 784 Lb-ft of torque vs 580HP and 775 LB-FT of torque) for 2022 F150 Lightning

jaykoolzboy · Aug 19, 2022

Texas truck channel did this first ever Dyno test for the ER battery, can anyone elaborate more on the results? ? Is EV Dyno same as ICE Dyno (Brake Horsepower vs HP)?

Just some quick recap from their results:

Manufacturing rating for ER 580 HP and 775 LB-FT of torque @ Motors
Their results 565HP and 784LB-FT of torque @ Wheels (what does that mean?)

F150ROD · Aug 19, 2022

It means Ford is sandbagging the numbers, but this is always Dyno dependent and anyone can manipulate those numbers. Also I’m not sure how much of a loss an EV would have vs ICE on a DYNO. The ICE has many contributing factors that would make those numbers come out lower on the Dyno

sotek2345 · Aug 19, 2022

If the numbers are accurate, that means the truck is seeing about 2.5% loss through the reduction gears and Ford sandbagged the torque (it is a little over 800ftlbs)

Griddlez · Aug 24, 2022

The possibility of those straps breaking scare me lol.

cvalue13 · Aug 24, 2022

There’s also this matter of the “new” type of linked AWD dyno being described ….

jpepper07 · Aug 24, 2022

sotek2345 said:
If the numbers are accurate, that means the truck is seeing about 2.5% loss through the reduction gears and Ford sandbagged the torque (it is a little over 800ftlbs)

Would they have sandbagged the HP too? Their 580HP would be at the "crank" normally right? Or is 580HP rating from ford at the wheel?

sotek2345 · Aug 24, 2022

jpepper07 said:
Would they have sandbagged the HP too? Their 580HP would be at the "crank" normally right? Or is 580HP rating from ford at the wheel?

I was assuming crank, but I am not sure for EVs.

Amps · Aug 24, 2022

Griddlez said:
The possibility of those straps breaking scare me lol.

In a perfect world, nothing would happen.
The world is not perfect.

LightningShow · Aug 25, 2022

"drivetrain" losses have to be pretty small in an EV. I'm not sure it's even worth differentiating between wheel and crank HP with an EV since the wheel is essentially connected directly to the "crank". The correction factors associated with the dyno internals are likely a bigger source of error here.

GarageMahal · Aug 25, 2022

Thanks! I found that worth watching.

My favorite part was that they needed add some resistance or the truck "thought it was flying" and would back off the throttle!

Too bad, but understandable, that they cannot go full throttle right away as that is where the best torque numbers should be for an electric motor.

IdeaOfTheDayCom · Aug 29, 2022

GarageMahal said:
Thanks! I found that worth watching.

My favorite part was that they needed add some resistance or the truck "thought it was flying" and would back off the throttle!

Too bad, but understandable, that they cannot go full throttle right away as that is where the best torque numbers should be for an electric motor.

The whole thing is absolutely scary... it definitely looks like it it wants to take off.

sotek2345 · Aug 29, 2022

IdeaOfTheDayCom said:
The whole thing is absolutely scary... it definitely looks like it it wants to take off.

Yeah - dyno tests are always fun. The silence from the truck in this one makes it a bit different.

IdeaOfTheDayCom · Aug 29, 2022

sotek2345 said:
Yeah - dyno tests are always fun. The silence from the truck in this one makes it a bit different.

True... just as scary with the rumble of an ICE engine. With the EV, the sound of not only the engine, but the Dyno itself reminds me of the sound of a jet engine.

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