Distribution of 80-AMP Ford Charge Station Pro (Home Charging Station)

[PV2EV]

Advantage #8; 10kw solar inverter/microgrid allows recharging/solar use when the grid is down. If this is not included in the $3900 hardware they are charging way too much for it.

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[Labs4Lightning]

...after the sale.

That's the point. The dealer memo allows for SunRun installation to precede the sale, but does not provide a method for residents of non-SunRun states to obtain the FCSP pre-sale to have the FCSP ready. I'm about 40 miles from a 150 kW DCFC. It's not the end of the world, I already have a 40A EVSE. But, you would expect charger distribution to be handled, at minimum, by the dealership upon truck delivery where SunRun doesn't have a presence.

All dealerships regardless of Sunrun presence. if They can’t handle it at 1000 trucks/month, how will they scale to handle 10,000 trucks a month next year. Assume the same percentage uses Sunrun today as next year.

 

[yed19]

Supposedly, SunRUn is handling installations regardless of their Solar programs in their selected states. I was told that they will still do the install in states where they don't normally operate. I suspect they are building a network of subs in those states to support these other cases. Once my build date hits, I am calling them and asking about installation pricing and if they can work with my solar installer which will be pulling permits for that installation.

 

[VTbuckeye]

All dealerships regardless of Sunrun presence. if They can’t handle it at 1000 trucks/month, how will they scale to handle 10,000 trucks a month next year. Assume the same percentage uses Sunrun today as next year.

Even if sunrun has a presence in your state, you shouldn't have to do business with them. It should be a transaction with your dealer/Ford. If you want sunrun to do something for you, contact them. If you don't, then you shouldn't have to. I considered going with sunrun for rooftop solar, but their advice to commit tax fraud (we needed to reroof and they would do it at cost (their price was less than a couple quotes, but more than another, so they were definitely going to make money on that too) and then report the cost of reroofing as part of the cost for solar installation. My accountant said no way is that legal.) to get a bigger federal credit was not ok with me. If it was a rogue sales guy too bad. He still represents your company. Many years ago it may have been acceptable, but further irs guidance has come out showing no ambivalence....(In order to have rooftop solar you need a house, so should the whole house construction be eligible for the investment tax credit?. Absolutely not, therefore reroofing is not eligible. If you needed to reinforce the structure to make it work for a solar array, then that work could be counted, but only the improvement, not any other roof work. Sure, you have to get caught, but not getting caught doing the wrong thing is not the same as doing the right thing).

TLDR: sunrun representative advocated tax fraud and from now until the end of time sunrun can kiss my a$$. Ethics and integrity still mean something in this world.

 

[Roy2001]

Even if sunrun has a presence in your state, you shouldn't have to do business with them. It should be a transaction with your dealer/Ford. If you want sunrun to do something for you, contact them. If you don't, then you shouldn't have to. I considered going with sunrun for rooftop solar, but their advice to commit tax fraud (we needed to reroof and they would do it at cost (their price was less than a couple quotes, but more than another, so they were definitely going to make money on that too) and then report the cost of reroofing as part of the cost for solar installation. My accountant said no way is that legal.) to get a bigger federal credit was not ok with me. If it was a rogue sales guy too bad. He still represents your company. Many years ago it may have been acceptable, but further irs guidance has come out showing no ambivalence....(In order to have rooftop solar you need a house, so should the whole house construction be eligible for the investment tax credit?. Absolutely not, therefore reroofing is not eligible. If you needed to reinforce the structure to make it work for a solar array, then that work could be counted, but only the improvement, not any other roof work. Sure, you have to get caught, but not getting caught doing the wrong thing is not the same as doing the right thing).

TLDR: sunrun representative advocated tax fraud and from now until the end of time sunrun can kiss my a$$. Ethics and integrity still mean something in this world.

That is criminal and I bet this is not their 1st time.

 

[metroshot]

Here is the HIS you can buy separately for your Ford 80A charger:

 

[yed19]

Here is the HIS you can buy separately for your Ford 80A charger:

And then when you order it, they won't fill the order until after their customers get their orders filled. My estimate on delivery of this part is 9/2 and it was ordered at the end of March. This is the issue for me.

 

[metroshot]

And then when you order it, they won't fill the order until after their customers get their orders filled. My estimate on delivery of this part is 9/2 and it was ordered at the end of March. This is the issue for me.

Guess the only thing to do is order the HIS part, line up your electrician to prep the house circuits, and use the mobile 32A charger in the meantime.

 

[yed19]

Guess the only thing to do is order the HIS part, line up your electrician to prep the house circuits, and use the mobile 32A charger in the meantime.

Or be willing to pay SunRun a $1500 "Priority" Fee... Maybe if I look at it as a "safety issue" as it would allow emergency backup power in the 6 months (probably)... Nope, just a rip off still

 

[metroshot]

Or be willing to pay SunRun a $1500 "Priority" Fee... Maybe if I look at it as a "safety issue" as it would allow emergency backup power in the 6 months (probably)... Nope, just a rip off still

Wow, so SunRun is making money off the sales plus "prioritization" that dealers charged if you want to skip the front of the line.

Maybe SunRun will fall into Tesla powerwall & solar panel debacle...

 

[Ken]

Advantage #8; 10kw solar inverter/microgrid allows recharging/solar use when the grid is down. If this is not included in the $3900 hardware they are charging way too much for it.

I'm pretty sure this question has come up multiple times before and the answer is that the system will not charge the vehicle from solar when the grid is down. It's not as flexible as a powerwall setup where you can get power moving in any direction between the house/solar/battery. It's only one way when the grid is down. I agree it's a huge failure oversight.

 

[adoublee]

I'm pretty sure this question has come up multiple times before and the answer is that the system will not charge the vehicle from solar when the grid is down. It's not as flexible as a powerwall setup where you can get power moving in any direction between the house/solar/battery. It's only one way when the grid is down. I agree it's a huge failure oversight.

Not true. The answer is that it has to be configured properly which has not been fully defined. Less of a chance it will automatically work with existing systems, definitely will work where the HIS is used as the solar inverter on a properly designed new install.

 

[Ken]

I hope you are correct about that, I have an existing solar system and would really prefer that capability. We are planning on expanding the system, but I'm certainly not using Sun Run to do that.

 

[pstansel]

I suspect Ken is correct unless a battery system is in play.

 

[adoublee]

I suspect Ken is correct unless a battery system is in play.

Nope. The HIS inverter has solar inputs with DC-DC conversion to match Truck battery voltage independent of what is happening after the AC conversion. AC coupling an existing system is more problematic with handshaking between multiple inverter manufacturers required to make sure the solar production is under control.

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