Distribution of 80-AMP Ford Charge Station Pro (Home Charging Station)

[Labs4Lightning]

Nope. The HIS inverter has solar inputs with DC-DC conversion to match Truck battery voltage independent of what is happening after the AC conversion. AC coupling an existing system is more problematic with handshaking between multiple inverter manufacturers required to make sure the solar production is under control.

Ford has stated solar can not at this time charge the truck said to be working to address this. Sorry don’t remember where I read that.

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[adoublee]

Ford has stated solar can not at this time charge the truck said to be working to address this. Sorry don’t remember where I read that.

Please reproduce that statement from Ford. I don't think you will find it.

@tommolog stated in January video based on conversations with Ford the solar can be used to power the house when separated from the grid. They seem to have told him the solar isn't currently allowed to charge the vehicle during this time (which is problematic for the value proposition of the HIS installation) but that they are working on it. They've had 4 month to work on it and hopefully are putting the effort it to make it works since @Ford Motor Company makes home back-up a top line selling point at every marketing event. The HIS specification sheet shows the hardware/comms are clearly in place to send solar power right into the Lightning with no conversions to AC (see the bi-directionality arrows on "EVSE"?). They just might be hesitant to allow it as they may want to software-limit the ability of customers to just charge the vehicle with 9.6kW DC from the HIS.

 

[PV2EV]

This limitation makes sense if they are using the same conductors to draw DC from the truck as they are to push AC to it for charging. I would much prefer to install extra wire and be able to power my house from solar while also charging the truck, then switch to battery when solar output drops. As the HIS/BDI has a microgrid, the software should allow it, selecting charge vs draw, even if manually.

If not, this is a MAJOR limitation, and not worth the money. Begs the question; If I can't charge the truck from solar, why not just draw power from the bed to critical loads? This needs to be understood before I invest, and I would not trust SunRun to know the answer.

 

[aquapools]

I called them today and they said they’d contact me when I’m 6 weeks from delivery of my Lightning. I asked if I could schedule for the charger’s delivery if I were planning on having it installed on my own. They weren’t sure and said they’d get back to me sometime… I mentioned that some people with a build date after mine have already signed for their chargers and the rep said some emails were sent out by mistake to some order holders.

I called SunRun today because my Scheduled Production date is May 9th and my blend date is May 11th. They said we don't have you in the system, but we are sure Ford will be sending out your information shortly. I guess these jokers are going to wait until the last minute to send these 80 amp chargers. Ford needs to step up their game.

 

[Maquis]

…..using the same conductors to draw DC from the truck as they are to push AC to it for charging.

That’s not possible. There are separate AC and DC conductors in the charge cable.

 

[TaxmanHog]

That’s not possible. There are separate AC and DC conductors in the charge cable.

Two conductors could be used, if there is switching gear inside the Ford Charger Pro and the HIS:

Step 1: at the HIS in the house, switch conductors from AC/240 to DC inverter input.
Step 2: at the EVSE, switch from J1772 conductors to CCS conductors.
Step 3: F150L contactors close in the truck connecting traction battery to CCS-1 DC pins
Step 4: The DC/AC inverter sends 240v split phase to load side transfer switch, select circuits.

This is what I invision, but I could be 100% wrong, if someone has the actual schematic diagrams of the system [EVSE & HIS] not just a general pictorial ..... I'd love to see it.

 

[Maquis]

Two conductors could be used, if there is switching gear inside the Ford Charger Pro and the HIS:

Step 1: at the HIS in the house, switch conductors from AC/240 to DC inverter input.
Step 2: at the EVSE, switch from J1772 conductors to CCS conductors.
Step 3: F150L contactors close in the truck connecting traction battery to CCS-1 DC pins
Step 4: The DC/AC inverter sends 240v split phase to load side transfer switch, select circuits.

This is what I invision, but I could be 100% wrong, if someone has the actual schematic diagrams of the system [EVSE & HIS] not just a general pictorial ..... I'd love to see it.

That’s true…complicated, but true. I think having the AC & DC use separate conductors all the was back to the HIS would result in a simpler, less expensive arrangement.
My point was that there has to be separate AC & DC conductors between the EVSE and the truck. I think that was the post I quoted was implying.
I’d also like to see a proper schematic drawing.

 

[p52Ranch]

Got this email today. I'm not in the market for a Charge Station Pro (XLT SR) but was curious enough to add a Charge Station Pro to my shopping cart.

Not a Backorder or Contact Us for updates or anything just a "Sold Out". LMAO.

 

[TaxmanHog]

I got a call this evening from Sunrun based on my request for contact. $150 design and field sales technical visit, then $1500 for most basic connection for the EVSE.

He did an appraisal of our electric bill with last 12 months usage history. Suggested, 22 panels for our tiny New England Cape at $28,000 bucks, including the home integration system.

When I explained that I need a service upgrade, he suggested a field visit is needed to get the most accurate quote, especially with my desire to not have solar or H.I.S. and a second utility drop to stand alone garage.

At least the conversation has started, now to get competitive quotes.

 

[PV2EV]

That is a good price, espeisally if it includes the charger install. You might bargain with them on any additional electrical work (new panel, etc...).

 

[jefro]

EVSE EV+ and EV- would be the DC part of the connector. I'll agree that Tesla does their supercharger with a special trick to their charge port to use AC or DC. Pretty sure it will use CCS connection. Hyundai has an ability to get some power out of their charge ports with an extra gizmo but the current is minimal.

Wonder what $30K might return in some good investment over the expected 10-20 year life of panels? In Texas the hail would usually get them before they just fell apart.

 

[F150ROD]

I just received this SunRun email

Note that they do confirm they can install the charger before delivery

 

[metroshot]

Yes, SunRun can do the install BEFORE the truck is yours.

You will have to sign that you are responsible for payment should the truck not get delivered.

For those that will install after delivery, according to Long McArthur Ford in KS, Tim said that SunRun will be contacting the customer a day or so after you sign the paperwork for the ER Lightning to setup installation or shipment to the customer's address.

 

[Jerry The Cowboy]

I called them this afternoon 4/28/22. She said they are starting to reach out to owners tomorrow and into next week. Keep an eye on your emails!

Who did you call?
Whats the number?

 

[beatle]

844‑948‑5405 is the number from the email. I got one yesterday as well even though my build week isn't until 6/6.

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