Order and Fight or pay the ADM?

[ivan256]

Also be aware that ordering and walking away gives the dealer even more markup potential beyond the 2,500.

It doesn't benefit you at all to get revenge on the dealer. It won't even make you feel better. Keep a cool head and watch your own back. If they make $20k off of somebody else instead of $2500 off you, you're better off than if they take you for $2500.

There will be no more reservations after 2023, and as soon as the supply isn't spoken for by reservations the craziness will calm down.

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[4Reeley]

Does it even have all the specific states' TT&L amounts, for example? I suspect once someone finally pushes that final button it'll spit out some pre-printed forms and tell the buyer to take the forms into the dealership to finalize the transaction...and that's typically when the wheels would fall off the bus.

Everything you said is probably spot on, and I agree with all of the points you bring up. Just looking for confirmation from someone who has taken this process through to the end.

 

[SmokingtheMeats]

Everything you said is probably spot on, and I agree with all of the points you bring up. Just looking for confirmation from someone who has taken this process through to the end.

I believe @olliegator did?

https://www.f150lightningforum.com/...g-purchase-add-your-options.10349/post-250499

 

[cvalue13]

Everyone asserting that F150L’s will drop in price and not continue to have secondary premiums is applying rough conjecture. Possibly poor conjecture.

There will not be many F150L’s made before the new BEV-platform truck releasing in ~2025. And that vehicle will not be an F150L.

Seems to me the biggest determinant of whether F150L retains or loses a secondary premium is a combination of (1) how the reveal and especially production of the new BEV-platform truck is received, crossed with (2) available alternatives (on a rolling basis).

But both (1) and (2) are future events, uncertain in outcome. And neither are likely to change materially until ~2024 (if/when more BEV truck alternatives reach market and Ford gives glimpses of the new truck).

For now, it’s just as reasonable to believe that for the foreseeable future (into 2024) brand new F150L’s will continue to be delivered at a pace well below demand, continuing conditions for secondary premium.

So it seems at least a little unfounded (or a lot wishful) to tell someone “just a wait a little and you can pick up a new F150L at MSRP no problem.”

Used, however, may be another matter…

 

[ExCivilian]

I believe @olliegator did?

https://www.f150lightningforum.com/...g-purchase-add-your-options.10349/post-250499

Yeah that does sound like they completed the entire purchase online. I'd love to hear the full details of that transaction. I wonder if it varies by state but I'm more than happy to be wrong on this.

 

[olliegator]

I believe @olliegator did?

https://www.f150lightningforum.com/...g-purchase-add-your-options.10349/post-250499

Yes, I did. Took four hours at the dealership with the GM and Sales Manager. I showed they had ample opportunity to add ADM - there’s a freaking line item in the purchase summary, for Pete’s sake - and that I “completed my purchase” online.

I had to hold the line - and they kept reducing the ADM, complaining all the way. Finally got them to agree. The only concession that I gave in on was to purchase a Extended Warranty from them (which I was planing to do anyway).

 

[olliegator]

I believe @olliegator did?

https://www.f150lightningforum.com/...g-purchase-add-your-options.10349/post-250499

Oh, and I was ready to cost them way more than the $30k they were trying to screw me over for. I would have picketed, called the TV station, all of it. They would have hated life.

 

[monsterlag]

Oh, and I was ready to cost them way more than the $30k they were trying to screw me over for. I would have picketed, called the TV station, all of it. They would have hated life.

Huh? So the process didn’t work? They still tried to add ADM on top?

So what’s the point of it anyway then?

 

[olliegator]

Huh? So the process didn’t work? They still tried to add ADM on top?

No, it worked. I just was prepared if it didn’t.

 

[monsterlag]

No, it worked. I just was prepared if it didn’t.

I might be confusing something then.

you said

Took four hours at the dealership with the GM and Sales Manager. I showed they had ample opportunity to add ADM - there’s a freaking line item in the purchase summary, for Pete’s sake - and that I “completed my purchase” online.

I had to hold the line - and they kept reducing the ADM, complaining all the way

why would it take that long and why would you have to “hold the line” if everything was done online? The dealer would be where you just goto pickup and no other shenanigans can be done on top.

 

[olliegator]

I might be confusing something then.

you said


why would it take that long and why would you have to “hold the line” if everything was done online? The dealer would be where you just goto pickup.

Sorry - yes, they tried to add $30k ADM after “completing my purchase” via Ford.com online. Said I “offered” to pay $30k more than the MSRP a on the order form.

That’s where I needed to “hold the line” and shove it back in their face that I had completed my purchase at $81,304.

 

[monsterlag]

Sorry - yes, they tried to add $30k ADM after “completing my purchase” via Ford.com online. Said I “offered” to pay $30k more than the MSRP a on the order form.

That’s where I needed to “hold the line” and shove it back in their face that I had completed my purchase at $81,304.

that’s just fucked.

 

[BennyTheBeaver]

No, it worked. I just was prepared if it didn’t.

You do know that those prices for the Extended Warranty are grossly marked up and the prices are negotiable. When I just recently added it to my used F-150 I negotiated them down $1k from what they originally asked for.

I sincerely mean no offense, but it seems they just got you in a different way. They know they are getting their marked up profit later.

 

[olliegator]

You do know that those prices for the Extended Warranty are grossly marked up and the prices are negotiable. When I just recently added it to my used F-150 I negotiated them down $1k from what they originally asked for.

I sincerely mean no offense, but it seems they just got you in a different way. They know they are getting their marked up profit later.

I had Granger’s email open and negotiated based on that price. Ended up paying $100 more than their price.

https://www.f150lightningforum.com/...our-ford-extended-warranty-grangerford.10265/

(Highly recommend going with Granger Ford, however. Only reason I did it this was is to make some “concession”)

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