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[F150LAQS]

Is there a detailed webpage with all the specs my electrician will need to know, in terms of volts/amps/breakers for the installation of a 240v outlet on the side of my house? I'm at the Ford website and they focus on the Ford Pro system. Maybe there's a thread somewhere here? Thanks.

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[Tfarrell73]

Depends on the charger you are using. The Ford charge station Pro uses up to a 100 amp circuit. I'm going to use a 50 amp circuit in my garage

 

[TaxmanHog]

I moved this thread to this section, lot's of discussions about FCSP and Connected Charge Station's
https://www.f150lightningforum.com/...rgers-battery-vehicle-to-vehicle-charging.84/

What is your battery size SR (standard range) or ER (extended range)?

 

[TaxmanHog]

Connected Charge Station details for 48 amp charging
https://chargers.ford.com/ford-connected-charge-station

https://storage.googleapis.com/hclc...tion_Installation_Manual_final_May_2023_1.pdf

 

[F150LAQS]

I moved this thread to this section, lot's of discussions about FCSP and Connected Charge Station's
https://www.f150lightningforum.com/...rgers-battery-vehicle-to-vehicle-charging.84/

What is your battery size SR (standard range) or ER (extended range)?

ER

 

[F150LAQS]

My understanding, which could be wrong, is that charging with a 240v outlet is just fine for overnight charging. In otherwords, I do NOT need to install a fcsp.

 

[TaxmanHog]

My understanding, which could be wrong, is that charging with a 240v outlet is just fine for overnight charging. In other words, I do NOT need to install a fcsp.

If you have modest needs based on short mileage per day demands, it's possible to get by with the Ford Mobile charger using the 240 volt plug and a 14-50 outlet.

The ER's come with the FCSP, which will arrive shortly after purchase if you haven't already received it.

 

[TaxmanHog]

How cold are your worst days in Alaska?

The slower 30/32 amp chargers will work harder to maintain battery temps while your truck is charging, so it may take longer than in milder climates, also in harsh weather the FMC is not ideally suited for outside use, hopefully you have a garage to keep it out of the weather.

 

[Maquis]

Short answer:
It‘s not complicated. He needs to install a NEMA 14-50 receptacle on a 50A circuit. The only caveat is to be sure it’s a heavy-duty, industrial receptacle. Not the kind sold at Home Depot.

 

[F150LAQS]

How cold are your worst days in Alaska?

The slower 30/32 amp chargers will work harder to maintain battery temps while your truck is charging, so it may take longer than in milder climates, also in harsh weather the FMC is not ideally suited for outside use, hopefully you have a garage to keep it out of the weather.

no garage. 0 to -10 degrees at the worst. i wonder if the fmc is insulatable, or if i can just replace it with a sturdier product? i don't want to use the ford pro because i will have to get a new breaker system.

 

[F150LAQS]

Short answer:
It‘s not complicated. He needs to install a NEMA 14-50 receptacle on a 50A circuit. The only caveat is to be sure it’s a heavy-duty, industrial receptacle. Not the kind sold at Home Depot.

so a scenario like this? 240V x 40 amp = 9.6 kW ( use 50 amp NEMA 14-50 plug which is fairly common and needs 50 amp circuit). The Ford mobile charger is plugged into this it maxes at 32 amp so 7kW. I know its not fast, but it will work for my needs.

 

[TaxmanHog]

so a scenario like this? 240V x 40 amp = 9.6 kW ( use 50 amp NEMA 14-50 plug which is fairly common and needs 50 amp circuit). The Ford mobile charger is plugged into this it maxes at 32 amp so 7kW. I know its not fast, but it will work for my needs.

It will work but not certain about efficacy of your drive cycle needs.
Reliability is still a concern, there were quite a few cold weather failures of the FMC last winter.

 

[Maquis]

so a scenario like this? 240V x 40 amp = 9.6 kW ( use 50 amp NEMA 14-50 plug which is fairly common and needs 50 amp circuit). The Ford mobile charger is plugged into this it maxes at 32 amp so 7kW. I know its not fast, but it will work for my needs.

Electrically, that’s exactly correct. As per the Taxman, 32A may or may not be adequate depending on your use case. For most people, it’s enough, but there have been reliability issues reported with the mobile charger.

 

[WhipSticks]

If I were you, I would run copper to a 100 amp sub-panel in the garage now. When the FCSP arrives, get the electrician to do a final line from the sub panel to the FCSP. Your truck can charge adequately on a 60 amp circuit (48 amp charge -- 11.2? kWh, or 8 - 12 hours depending on state-of-charge and needs), but the '23 ER has dual 48 amp on-board chargers, and will be capable of much faster charging than 48 amp will deliver (100 amp circuit feeding an 80 amp charger for roughly 19 kWh, or 4-8 hr depending on state-of-charge and needs). Overnight is one thing, but there may very well be times when you need a fast charge, and will likely regret not exploiting your truck's fantastic AC charging capabilities.

Any capable electrician should be able to handle this. It's not complicated, and well-documented.

 

[Maquis]

If I were you, I would run copper to a 100 amp sub-panel in the garage now. When the FCSP arrives, get the electrician to do a final line from the sub panel to the FCSP. Your truck can charge adequately on a 60 amp circuit (48 amp charge -- 11.2? kWh, or 8 - 12 hours depending on state-of-charge and needs), but the '23 ER has dual 48 amp on-board chargers, and will be capable of much faster charging than 48 amp will deliver (100 amp circuit feeding an 80 amp charger for roughly 19 kWh, or 4-8 hr depending on state-of-charge and needs). Overnight is one thing, but there may very well be times when you need a fast charge, and will likely regret not exploiting your truck's fantastic AC charging capabilities.

Any capable electrician should be able to handle this. It's not complicated, and well-documented.

Good advice for future-proofing. But there is really no need to run copper to the subpanel. #1 aluminum is 1/3 the cost of #3 copper.

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