Is NEVI dead?

[Henry Ford]

Paywall. Cant read, but my understanding is that agreement was for Magic Docks and outside of the IRA/NEVI and also not related to NACS access via adapter. If im wrong, on that I appreciate you educating me on the matter.

Can't post the whole article. There are probably other articles from around that time that explain it.

Tesla’s decision to open its network means the company will become eligible for some of the $7.5 billion in grant money that Congress authorized as part of a bipartisan infrastructure law passed in 2021.

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[Firn]

Paywall. Cant read, but my understanding is that agreement was for Magic Docks and outside of the IRA/NEVI and also not related to NACS access via adapter. If im wrong, on that I appreciate you educating me on the matter.

Use the 12 foot ladder .IO site to bypass.

NPR reports Tesla has recieved around 30 million for nevi
https://www.npr.org/2025/02/07/nx-s...ts of the,Office of Energy and Transportation.

Also a .org site
https://evstates.org/awards-dashboard/

 

[luebri]

Can't post the whole article. There are probably other articles from around that time that explain it.

I was able to spend some time digging into this further… no other reason than I like knowing the facts and I dont want to state something incorrectly.

As I previously stated, as long as you are only referring to Magic Docks (CCS Superchargers) Your statement that Tesla “opened up use of its chargers because it wanted access to (Federal) money” is true. I (perhaps incorrectly) inferred your statement to also be stating (as others have stated on here before) that the Opening of NACS also was done for Federal money which I’ve seen no evidence to support. More details below…

One thing I will say I have screwed up for a while, is that I was under the belief NEVI was part of the larger IRA bill, but it was actually part of the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law (BIL) signed into law a several months before IRA.

The article you reference is quite vague and in no way states what exactly the “federal grants” are and how much. However at that time is was widely reported that funding was part of the NEVI / BIL and not a separate carve out for Tesla (see Whitehouse link below). Thus, since the vast majority of states NEVI plans still require a CCS port existing NACS only would not qualify, supporting my statement that NACS access via adapter is in no way related to the article you linked regarding Federal grants.

Additionally, Since the Ford NACS announcement occurred 3 months after the article you posted and completely blind sided everyone in the industry. If it were true that the article posted was also for Tesla opening NACS then the Ford NACS announcement would not have surprised anyone. Which it quite obviously did.

I will also note that the amount of superchargers discussed in these 2 different programs / announcements is incongruent (3,500 vs 12,000) making it hard to believe these programs / announcements were in any manner related.


Timeline of events….

11/2021 - Bipartisan Infrastructure Law (BIL) (also called the Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act - IIJA), passed in November 2021, created the NEVI program with $7.5 billion in funding to expand the U.S. EV charging network. NEVI specifically focuses on building a national network of EV chargers, ensuring they are reliable, accessible, and meet federal standards.

8/2022 - The Inflation Reduction Act (IRA) (passed in August 2022) does not include the NEVI program. Instead, the IRA provides tax credits and incentives for EV purchases, battery production, and manufacturing clean energy components.

2/15/2023 - The article you shared and correlating White House announcement for grants to provide to 3,500 250 kW Superchargers and additional specifics about NEVI / BIL and many other charge providers .

2/23/2023 - First reports of Tesla Magic Docks are seen in the wild in Upstate New York. (Note within days of the White House announcement)

5/22/2023 - Ford/Tesla announced this agreement will give Ford drivers access to over 12,000 superchargers.

Some other things to note about the Data… Tesla not surprisingly is asking for by far the least amount of Federal grant money per port and thus the best steward of our tax dollars as part of NEVI. Per the https://evstates.org/awards-dashboard/ that @Firn linked. (see attached of per port Funding for top 5 recipients to date)

A few references...

.... the announcement of the Magic Docks and states the following…. “That may be changing, as Tesla will open up its network, 7,500 Superchargers (that portion is incorrect, because they are lumping Level 2’s in to get to that 7,500 number) , to all EVs by the end of next year. The new stations with universal connections are known as “Magic Dock” units”

https://bidenwhitehouse.archives.go...tric-vehicle-chargers/?utm_source=chatgpt.com

 

[Henry Ford]

I was able to spend some time digging into this further… no other reason than I like knowing the facts and I dont want to state something incorrectly.

As I previously stated, as long as you are only referring to Magic Docks (CCS Superchargers) Your statement that Tesla “opened up use of its chargers because it wanted access to (Federal) money” is true. I (perhaps incorrectly) inferred your statement to also be stating (as others have stated on here before) that the Opening of NACS also was done for Federal money which I’ve seen no evidence to support. More details below…

One thing I will say I have screwed up for a while, is that I was under the belief NEVI was part of the larger IRA bill, but it was actually part of the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law (BIL) signed into law a several months before IRA.

The article you reference is quite vague and in no way states what exactly the “federal grants” are and how much. However at that time is was widely reported that funding was part of the NEVI / BIL and not a separate carve out for Tesla (see Whitehouse link below). Thus, since the vast majority of states NEVI plans still require a CCS port existing NACS only would not qualify, supporting my statement that NACS access via adapter is in no way related to the article you linked regarding Federal grants.

Additionally, Since the Ford NACS announcement occurred 3 months after the article you posted and completely blind sided everyone in the industry. If it were true that the article posted was also for Tesla opening NACS then the Ford NACS announcement would not have surprised anyone. Which it quite obviously did.

I will also note that the amount of superchargers discussed in these 2 different programs / announcements is incongruent (3,500 vs 12,000) making it hard to believe these programs / announcements were in any manner related.


Timeline of events….

11/2021 - Bipartisan Infrastructure Law (BIL) (also called the Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act - IIJA), passed in November 2021, created the NEVI program with $7.5 billion in funding to expand the U.S. EV charging network. NEVI specifically focuses on building a national network of EV chargers, ensuring they are reliable, accessible, and meet federal standards.

8/2022 - The Inflation Reduction Act (IRA) (passed in August 2022) does not include the NEVI program. Instead, the IRA provides tax credits and incentives for EV purchases, battery production, and manufacturing clean energy components.

2/15/2023 - The article you shared and correlating White House announcement for grants to provide to 3,500 250 kW Superchargers and additional specifics about NEVI / BIL and many other charge providers .

2/23/2023 - First reports of Tesla Magic Docks are seen in the wild in Upstate New York. (Note within days of the White House announcement)

5/22/2023 - Ford/Tesla announced this agreement will give Ford drivers access to over 12,000 superchargers.

Some other things to note about the Data… Tesla not surprisingly is asking for by far the least amount of Federal grant money per port and thus the best steward of our tax dollars as part of NEVI. Per the https://evstates.org/awards-dashboard/ that @Firn linked. (see attached of per port Funding for top 5 recipients to date)

A few references...

.... the announcement of the Magic Docks and states the following…. “That may be changing, as Tesla will open up its network, 7,500 Superchargers (that portion is incorrect, because they are lumping Level 2’s in to get to that 7,500 number) , to all EVs by the end of next year. The new stations with universal connections are known as “Magic Dock” units”

https://bidenwhitehouse.archives.go...tric-vehicle-chargers/?utm_source=chatgpt.com

Thanks for doing the research.

I don't think we need to get further in the weeds. My point is that Elon Musk has a giant conflict of interest and some recent federal policies seem to be favorable to his personal interests. That tends to piss people off.