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Looking through some as built comparisons I think you also need to look at 720-09-02 first bit for "intelligent adaptive cruise" and maybe the second to last of 720-09-01 for "speed limit information function" Those were different between my 21XLT and others that have assist 2.0

I've got my CCM and wiring harness on order and eagerly awaiting giving this a try.

Did you guys have to touch the PSCM or SCCM for this? Found a few differences there that look like they might be needed too.
Yes,

You need PSCM, BCM, IPC, APIM, SCCM, IPMA
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Great job! There are a ton of changes... Not sure if you made the change in the BCM..


The ipc you need to make a change for the speed sign recognition. I think in 05-01 the first bit
Thanks! Yes, it is awesome!!! Ran it quite a bit today and got the hang of it, man does it work nice! Especially long stretches of straight highway all around where I am, even takes some curves halfway decent as well. It definitely damn near drives itself most of the time now.

I think the only change I made in the BCM was
726-16-01xxxxxx10xx--
which ended up making it
726-16-01C110409060--
for me, which I changed to make ACC work so that should be right.
If there is another in the BCM I'm overlooking, I'm all ears!

In the IPC for speed sign recognition, that would be
720-03-02xx*xxx--
and I have that enabled, along with about everything else I could find related to speed and traffic sign recognition. Same goes for the APIM and IPMA in that regards.

I played around with it this evening some more and still no dice. I even get the mysterious and elusive bubble on my speedometer at times. However the speed limit sign on my spedo goes from light to mostly dim at times, and I never get that wide range bar on the gauge like I think I've seen in others working. Anyways, I'll keep at it and throw some some suggestions my way if you have some!
 

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Looking through some as built comparisons I think you also need to look at 720-09-02 first bit for "intelligent adaptive cruise" and maybe the second to last of 720-09-01 for "speed limit information function" Those were different between my 21XLT and others that have assist 2.0

I've got my CCM and wiring harness on order and eagerly awaiting giving this a try.

Did you guys have to touch the PSCM or SCCM for this? Found a few differences there that look like they might be needed too.
Thanks, on the 720-09-02 *xxx, yep I've got IAAC enabled there.

Ah ha! 720-09-01 xxxx xxxx *x is one I might have looked over since its just called SLIF, and yes, even on my comparison its different between, so will enabled that and see what happens! Thanks!

Good deal, keep an eye on ebay as well, just noticed a few complete CCMs for much less right now.

PSCM, yes that needs a few values changed, mainly LCA, TJA (thats a big one here and other places that held me up previously), and I enabled ESA as well and it appears to be functional as well.

SCCM, I haven't touched anything there yet as I haven't install the ACC distance switch yet, working just fine on 3 bars and you can change that manually through 706-32-01 *xxx. I plan to install my switch eventually since i got it and should only take a couple minutes.
 

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So I've got a 302A with 360. So my IPMA may be good.

If I was gonna give this a try it sounds like I need:
  • wiring - ML3Z-15K867-B
  • ccm - ML3T-9G768-AH
  • switch - SW-7449
That correct?
 

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So I've got a 302A with 360. So my IPMA may be good.

If I was gonna give this a try it sounds like I need:
  • wiring - ML3Z-15K867-B
  • ccm - ML3T-9G768-AH
  • switch - SW-7449
That correct?
Yes. But you need the ccm bracket. There is a part number that includes it all.

im pretty sure the truck is prewired and you will need front number harness only.
 

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Welp, played around with it some more this evening with the new suggestions and still no functional speed sign recognition. The one big one I thought I maybe didn't have on, the IPC 720-09-01 xxxx xxxx *x speed limit info function" was already on from when I turned it on previously. So will have to keep at it to see what else I might be missing. Open to any suggestions!
 

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So I've got a 302A with 360. So my IPMA may be good.

If I was gonna give this a try it sounds like I need:
  • wiring - ML3Z-15K867-B
  • ccm - ML3T-9G768-AH
  • switch - SW-7449
That correct?
That doesn't sound right. Working with the forums and my dealer we identified

wire: ML3Z-15K867-NA
CCM: ML3Z-9E731-B which should be the whole assembly.

DIdn't order the switch. Gonna go without and deal with that later. Should be ML3T-9E740-D though.

At least that is what I discovered. If I'm wrong I'll be back with an "i'm an idiot" post next week Also may have one of those anyway if I didn't find all the as-built changes
 

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@jordandev That wire harness also includes the front ultrasonic parking sensors present on XLTs with assist 2.0. I believe the part without those was -MA but check with your dealer. I went with the harness that has the wiring in case I add those later (there's another thread on that).

@superfordman I wonder if the IACC/speed sign recognition is affected by the "connected built in nav" subscription. I know it uses that nav database to put up speed limit signs so if you don't have the nav subscription maybe the truck ignores signs? @Jesse-Infotainment does that seem plausible?
 

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@jordandev That wire harness also includes the front ultrasonic parking sensors present on XLTs with assist 2.0. I believe the part without those was -MA but check with your dealer. I went with the harness that has the wiring in case I add those later (there's another thread on that).

@superfordman I wonder if the IACC/speed sign recognition is affected by the "connected built in nav" subscription. I know it uses that nav database to put up speed limit signs so if you don't have the nav subscription maybe the truck ignores signs? @Jesse-Infotainment does that seem plausible?
Yeah.. that does actually sounds very possible. We would have to look at the service and see what it mentions. I know that mine has worked since the beginning and I have the subscription.
 

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@superfordman I wonder if the IACC/speed sign recognition is affected by the "connected built in nav" subscription. I know it uses that nav database to put up speed limit signs so if you don't have the nav subscription maybe the truck ignores signs? @Jesse-Infotainment does that seem plausible?
Yeah.. that does actually sounds very possible. We would have to look at the service and see what it mentions. I know that mine has worked since the beginning and I have the subscription.
Yes! I kinda that that idea in the back of my head and was wondering about that, so I'll have to re-up that and see what happens, as mine is currently inactive.

However, some strange progress today, changed a few more addresses toying around and nothing major at first, but then all a sudden this evening speed sign recognition starting working out of nowhere shortly after starting up and driving out of own. Turned cruise on and went straight to 25, then picked up the 35 sign on the road and put me to 40 with my +5 tolerance, then again for a 45 sign, but then errored out shortly after saying "speed sign recognition not available" on the IPC, thats so far the one and only time I've got it to work.

So, ideas might be the nav subscription or, maybe I'm running into the same software issue some others saw a few months ago running 2.3.0, as that is what I'm currently on with everything. Then my donor IPMA I'm currently using might even be older software. I need to compare its version to my IPMA and see what the differences might be version wise, if any. I pulled the trigger on a Mongoose so should be able to tackle getting everything updated here shortly if there would be any suspicion older/different versions would be the issue.

Another thing I've noticed in all my changes, especially today, is the speed limit sign on the IPC only shows now after it registers one with the camera. Then I also no longer have the speed limit sign show in the nav on the APIM either, but not sure when that one disappeared as I rarely pay attention over there to it.

Thanks for the all the ideas so far guys, now back to the grind!
 

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That disappeared for me when I got fully up to date. Haven't made any asbuilt changes relating to ACC yet, so I'm guessing it's an update thing?
 

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That's good to know then so must be a software thing, not so much a connected nav feature or anything else hopefully.

Had some more weird things happen again today and got it to work very briefly for a minute barely a couple times, but only would like right after starting the truck and getting going, would work for a minute then error out. At least I caught what it looks like when it is working though, the speed limit sign should be bright white, not dim, and will be outlined in green. One thing I caught on my IPC this morning for a split second, was my speed limit sign showed in the place where the strange bubble/dot usually does, and was a european speed limit sign...

So at this point I may have gone overboard on enabling things so might need to dial it back to only what is needed and start over again. Plus need to try enabling connected nav once I can figure out where to sign up for it again, as it doesn't show in my Fordpass app for some reason, so will poke around the website.
 

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Interesting, where did you get your advanced IPMA? In any case, my parts came in last night so need to to a quick trip to the dealer (2hr round trip) this morning to get them and hopefully install this today. Then I can see if I have similar issues. A buddy of mine just got an XLT with ACC so I can compare dash indications to him since we don't have the fancy all-glass IPC.
 

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It came out of a platinum with 360 cams, trailer backup assist, all the goodies, so should do everything no problem. But I loaded my IPMA config to it right off the bat because it was freaking out with everything enabled for it in my truck, plus wanted to work through only what needs enabled to make everything work. I think tomorrow if I finally have some time, I'm just going to load my config over to my standard IPMA and see what happens then, plus the lack of a backup camera is starting to bug me.

Yes, for you the TRS will be a little different since your speed sign shows up in a static spot in the IPC screen, but it may act the same, highlight green when TRS is active.
 

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That round dot is supposed to be there on start up if you have Speed sign recognition working. Its not a bad thing.
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