Sponsored
OP
OP
SpaceEVDriver

SpaceEVDriver

Well-known member
Joined
Feb 9, 2022
Threads
15
Messages
231
Reaction score
387
Location
Arizona
Vehicles
2023 Lightning Lariat ER, 2022 Mustang Mach-E
I had meetings at CalTech's Cahill Center for Astronomy and Astrophysics. There's a parking garage behind the Center. Parking was $27 for the week, and they have around 90 chargers (several DCFC but mostly L2). For whatever reason, the chargers were free during the week I was visiting, so I got to charge to full while in my meetings.

This little beauty was charging on one of the days. Back when I had no money, I searched and searched for a Porsche 914 to convert into an EV, but they were too expensive (plus the cost of the conversion kit). So I bought the Gen-1 Prius instead. One of these days I'll have both time and money to convert an FJ40 or MGB or something similar.

Ford F-150 Lightning Adventures of our 2023 Carbonized Gray Metallic Lariat Lightning ER PXL_20240927_174144387


After my week of meetings, I picked up a U-Haul trailer and loaded up some furniture I had been given by a relative. I headed home starting with 99% charge.

I arrived at the Barstow Supercharger with 69% remaining. Plugged in and went to find a snack. All of the food purchases are a bit of a walk from the charging station, so by the time I was back, the truck had stopped charging at 90%. If I'd thought about it before leaving the truck, I would have asked it to charge to 100% (it wouldn't have reached 100%, but I wanted as much charge as possible).

Ford F-150 Lightning Adventures of our 2023 Carbonized Gray Metallic Lariat Lightning ER PXL_20240928_165811545.MP (1)


Nearly half of the chargers at this station were taped off with caution tape, but it wasn't busy, so there were still many chargers available. With the pullthrough spaces here, I was able to only block the charger I was using, which was nice.

From the LA basin to Barstow I got about 1.9 miles/kWh, which was pretty good considering I was climbing from about 700 feet to about 4200 feet and then back down to 2300 feet. Towing and climbing is energy-expensive.

After Barstow, I headed to Needles. I considered the stop on Goff's road, but it really wasn't necessary so I continued to the EA charging station in Needles. I strongly dislike the locations of both brand-T charging stations in Needles, so only go to those if the EA app indicates it makes more sense to suck it up. The EA chargers have never given me too much trouble. The are often slow in the summer because while the parking space is covered, the main electrical components are in direct sunlight. Needles is one of the hottest places on Earth, so those poor components get especially hot. I do hope EA will put shades over them some day.

I arrived in Needles with 34% remaining on the battery, 1.9 miles/kWh. There were a couple of Mustangs charging, but two chargers were free. I hooked up, started charging, and went to the nearby McD's to use the restroom and grab a snack. This I also needed to walk a bit--the sciatica had been acting up and I needed to loosen that. I walked around a bit, grabbed a second snack from McD's and ate a light lunch.

Ford F-150 Lightning Adventures of our 2023 Carbonized Gray Metallic Lariat Lightning ER PXL_20240928_210040241.RESTORED (1)


When I got back, there was this Lightning with a cab-over pop-up camper. I'm too introverted to approach people sitting in their vehicles, but I wanted to ask about efficiency and range hit since we're considering this as one of several camping options.

After charging to 90% again (glad I did!), I moved on.

Shortly before crossing the border from CA to AZ, traffic suddenly came to a standstill. Apparently there was a vehicle fire up ahead. It took more than an hour to go a few miles. It was 120 ºF outside, so I had to turn on the AC. This slurped up my battery while going nowhere, similar to how running a gas guzzler guzzles fuel when stuck in traffic. I had been hoping to skip the Kingman stop and stop in Williams, but that idea was shot, so after finally getting off the bridge crossing the Colorado River, I didn't bother with keeping my speed low and headed to the brand-T supercharger.

The Route 66 museum closes at 15:30 on Saturday, but the operators were kind enough to let me in to use the restroom just before they closed. I set the charge limit to 100%, used the restroom, took a short walk, and went back to the truck to take a nap. I hadn't intended to let the charge go above 90%, but I woke up with it at 92%.

I wasn't happy with my parking job. I kind of blocked three chargers. But when I had arrived, there was another Lightning parked horizontally blocking four chargers and I had to go around them and try to turn around in a very tight space. I ended up with the trailer a bit jackknifed and someone else was waiting for me so I just kind of rushed the end to get out of their way. The station wasn't so busy that anyone ended up waiting for me, but I will do it better next time.

Ford F-150 Lightning Adventures of our 2023 Carbonized Gray Metallic Lariat Lightning ER PXL_20240928_230940731.RESTORED


After Kingman, I had enough charge to get home, with a possible stop in Williams if necessary. That stop wasn't necessary. I arrived home with 9% charge after a 1.4 miles/kWh final leg.

Towing a low-profile trailer like what I had really didn't add a lot to the inefficiency of the truck. Climbing from about 700 feet to 7,000 feet with several extra climbs in between is what really kills efficiency on the way back. The extra weight did impact efficiency when driving in traffic that had a lot of slow-and-go behaviors. It's a fair amount of extra mass to have to repeatedly accelerate.

Total length of the trip was about 10 hours for a normally 7.5 hour drive. One of the extra hours was due to the vehicle fire and subsequent stopped traffic. An extra 30 minutes was due to having to charge an extra time because of the extra AC use during the stopped traffic and then my unconcerned speed after the stopped traffic. In normal traffic and driving, I think the towing would only have added an extra hour to the drive. That's about the same added time I have experienced with a gas truck. And I don't mind stopping extra to work out the kinks in my back and legs during a drive like this.

Overall, I think towing with the Lightning is much more relaxing and easier than towing with the Tacoma or Tundra was.
 

21st Century Truck

Well-known member
First Name
Martin
Joined
Jul 11, 2024
Threads
6
Messages
241
Reaction score
243
Location
Virginia
Vehicles
Ford 150 Lightning 2023 XLT ER pkg. 312A
Nice! I'll see Your Lightning on the road one of these months :like:
I especially like the solar panels. I am thinking of boondocking a bit with our teardrop trailer. The solar panels do give some range recapture security on rougher, more remote trails.

Couldn't think of adding solar panels like this when I had the Mach E.
 
Last edited:
OP
OP
SpaceEVDriver

SpaceEVDriver

Well-known member
Joined
Feb 9, 2022
Threads
15
Messages
231
Reaction score
387
Location
Arizona
Vehicles
2023 Lightning Lariat ER, 2022 Mustang Mach-E
I especially like the solar panels. I am thinking of boondocking a bit with our teardrop trailer. The solar panels do give some range recapture security on rougher, more remote trails.

Couldn't think of adding solar panels like this when I had the Mach E.
I need to re-configure my solar. It works well, but the small panels were not giving me the power I really wanted, so I think I'm going to go to 400 or 800 watts in the near future.
 

Sponsored
OP
OP
SpaceEVDriver

SpaceEVDriver

Well-known member
Joined
Feb 9, 2022
Threads
15
Messages
231
Reaction score
387
Location
Arizona
Vehicles
2023 Lightning Lariat ER, 2022 Mustang Mach-E
We just returned home from a 3,300 mile road trip to CA and Oregon.

The trip was originally going to be a work meeting in LA and then a drive up to Redding for Thanksgiving. Then the plan moved to having TG in Portland instead. Then my work meeting was converted from an in-person to virtual meeting, but by then it was kind of too late to purchase flights so we decided to do the drive.

We debated taking the Lighting (more comfortable) vs the Mustang (more efficient), but ultimately settled on the Lightning for the comfort. This would be a 48-50 hour driving trip all-told, so comfort really does matter.

General Trip path:
  • Northern AZ to LA Valley
  • LA to Ventura
  • Ventura to Redding
  • Redding to Vancouver
  • Vancouver/Portland to Lathrop
  • Lathrop to Northern Arizona

Trip specs:
Total trip distance: 3323 miles
Total energy used: 1429 kWh
Average efficiency 2.3 miles/kWh
Total cost of $459.45.

I might write up the legs, but we had zero trouble. One supercharger spot was inaccessible with 4 of 8 stalls occupied, but a nearby EA charge was available and working. The hotels we stayed at had fees for charging, which is fine, but caused our total trip cost to be about $100-$150 more than it would have been normally.

Overall, we are super happy with the Lighting as a road trip vehicle.
 

B177y

Well-known member
First Name
Bill
Joined
Jul 16, 2024
Threads
3
Messages
67
Reaction score
103
Location
Olympic Peninsula WA
Website
www.ptcoffee.com
Vehicles
2024 Lightning Pro ER Max Tow, 2021 Highlander V6, 2013 Suzuki Wee-Strom
Occupation
Coffee Roasting
2.3 MPK is crazy good for this time of year! I got 1.8 MPK avg on a recent 3300 mile road trip, but that was through ID, MT, and ND where the speed limit is 80 MPH. What types of road were you traveling (interstate?) and what would you guess for avg speed?

Thanks for sharing your adventures.
 
OP
OP
SpaceEVDriver

SpaceEVDriver

Well-known member
Joined
Feb 9, 2022
Threads
15
Messages
231
Reaction score
387
Location
Arizona
Vehicles
2023 Lightning Lariat ER, 2022 Mustang Mach-E
2.3 MPK is crazy good for this time of year! I got 1.8 MPK avg on a recent 3300 mile road trip, but that was through ID, MT, and ND where the speed limit is 80 MPH. What types of road were you traveling (interstate?) and what would you guess for avg speed?

Thanks for sharing your adventures.
Mostly interstates: I-40 and I-5. A few other freeways. And a few hundred miles on surface streets and small highways.

We've got 11,000 miles on the truck after 7 months, with mostly freeway driving, and our average efficiency is 2.3 m/kWh.

We set the cruise control at 72-73 mph on I-40, at 70 mph on I-5, and etc. We set the HVAC at 60-65 ⁰F and use the seat heaters.

We ran into fog for 70 miles from Sacramento to Lathrop and got 2.7 m/kWh. But that's just a short section.
 

Sponsored

B177y

Well-known member
First Name
Bill
Joined
Jul 16, 2024
Threads
3
Messages
67
Reaction score
103
Location
Olympic Peninsula WA
Website
www.ptcoffee.com
Vehicles
2024 Lightning Pro ER Max Tow, 2021 Highlander V6, 2013 Suzuki Wee-Strom
Occupation
Coffee Roasting
Mostly interstates: I-40 and I-5. A few other freeways. And a few hundred miles on surface streets and small highways.

We've got 11,000 miles on the truck after 7 months, with mostly freeway driving, and our average efficiency is 2.3 m/kWh.

We set the cruise control at 72-73 mph on I-40, at 70 mph on I-5, and etc. We set the HVAC at 60-65 ⁰F and use the seat heaters.

We ran into fog for 70 miles from Sacramento to Lathrop and got 2.7 m/kWh. But that's just a short section.
This absolutely shows the value in slowing down. I had my cruise set to 80 mph for all of the charger to charger sections on I-90 and I-94, except for where the speed limit dropped through the passes, construction zones, and a few of the larger cities/towns.

My overall avg on the trip meter is 2.2 MPK after 7500 miles in just over 2 months. All of my local driving is 55 mph freeway or slower surface streets, and when I do hit the interstate in WA, it's mostly 65 MPH or slower on the populated Western side of the state.

For the times that I have driven with ABRP linked to my OBD during mostly road tripping, it shows my "Calibrated Reference Consumption" as 2.0 MPK.
 
OP
OP
SpaceEVDriver

SpaceEVDriver

Well-known member
Joined
Feb 9, 2022
Threads
15
Messages
231
Reaction score
387
Location
Arizona
Vehicles
2023 Lightning Lariat ER, 2022 Mustang Mach-E
This absolutely shows the value in slowing down. I had my cruise set to 80 mph for all of the charger to charger sections on I-90 and I-94, except for where the speed limit dropped through the passes, construction zones, and a few of the larger cities/towns.

My overall avg on the trip meter is 2.2 MPK after 7500 miles in under 3 months. All of my local driving is 55 mph freeway or slower surface streets, and when I do hit the interstate in WA, it's mostly 65 MPH or slower on the populated Western side of the state.

For the times that I have driven with ABRP linked to my OBD during mostly road tripping, it shows my "Calibrated Reference Consumption" as 2.0 MPK.
Yeah, 80 is rough on efficiency. And if you do the math, it doesn't save any time.

If we use 1.5 mpkWh as efficiency at 80 mph and 2.1 mpkWh for efficiency at 72 mph (I can get 2.4, but let's use a lower number) and drive 160 miles:

160 miles / 80 mph = 2 hours = 120 minutes.
160 miles / 72 mph = 2.22 hours = 133 minutes.

13 minutes saved by going 80 mph instead of 72 mph

160 miles / 1.5 mpkWh = 107 kWh.
160 miles / 2.1 mpkWh = 76 kWh.
I get an average of 120 kW charge rate.
107 kWh / 120 kW = 54 minutes.
76 kWh / 120 kW = 38 minutes.

That's 16 minutes saved by going 72 mph instead of 80 mph.

The difference is 3 minutes saved by going 72 mph instead of 80 mph. No real difference in time per 160 mile leg, but when we're talking about 3300 miles, it can add up. Not that I mind stopping -- I like the lunch breaks and taking a walk every 2.5 to 3 hours. Going slower also saves a small amount of money per leg.
 
OP
OP
SpaceEVDriver

SpaceEVDriver

Well-known member
Joined
Feb 9, 2022
Threads
15
Messages
231
Reaction score
387
Location
Arizona
Vehicles
2023 Lightning Lariat ER, 2022 Mustang Mach-E
For time of travel purposes in an EV, 70-ish mph is the same as 80 mph. Unless you're going to charge more than 3 times on DCFC, in which case 70-ish is faster. Unless your EV has an 800 volt battery and you can guarantee a 350 kW EA charger, in which case 80 mph might be faster.
 

B177y

Well-known member
First Name
Bill
Joined
Jul 16, 2024
Threads
3
Messages
67
Reaction score
103
Location
Olympic Peninsula WA
Website
www.ptcoffee.com
Vehicles
2024 Lightning Pro ER Max Tow, 2021 Highlander V6, 2013 Suzuki Wee-Strom
Occupation
Coffee Roasting
For time of travel purposes in an EV, 70-ish mph is the same as 80 mph. Unless you're going to charge more than 3 times on DCFC, in which case 70-ish is faster. Unless your EV has an 800 volt battery and you can guarantee a 350 kW EA charger, in which case 80 mph might be faster.
But... Driving more faster is more funner and more faster?

😜
Sponsored

 
 





Top