EV Batteries Can Outlast A Vehicle’s Lifetime With Minimal Degradation, Study Finds

[MAhauler]

https://insideevs.com/news/733987/ev-batteries-outlast-vehicle-degradation-study/

Original source (study): https://www.geotab.com/blog/ev-battery-health/

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[hturnerfamily]

One of the MOST COMMON questions I got from the 'non-ev' crowd is:

"whach ya gonna do when you gotta replace that thar expensive Battery thang??"



oh well.

 

[RickLightning]

One of the MOST COMMON questions I got from the 'non-ev' crowd is:

"whach ya gonna do when you gotta replace that thar expensive Battery thang??"



oh well.

Responses:

"Won't happen in my use of the vehicle".

"How about replacing the engine in your gas vehicle"?

"In 10+ years, for the tiny percentage that need it, cost will be lower".

Or, this response:

 

[AZT9]

Gotta say, im happy with how the pack is performing. May not be 100% accurate but my
Scanner app says my overall SOH (state of health) is 96% on a 2022 with 63k miles and lots of DCFC sessions. Extrapolate that out and I’ll still be around 90% in the next 2-3 years. Not bad

 

[Wendy]

Let's see ... I had to replace the whole %^&$# engine in my Silverado V8 with 150,000 miles!
And then a tree fell on it

 

[Sedawk]

While great, this is not news. The leading Li-Ion battery researcher Dr. Jeff Dahn from Dalhousie has been say this for years because he has the data that proves it.

 

[kstype]

I am currently 97% on a 2023 Lariat ER with about 53,000 miles on it.

 

[Jim Lewis]

I thought the most telling part of the article was the chart towards the end on battery aging vs. climate:

The effects of temperature on EV batteries.
Another factor that can accelerate battery degradation is high ambient temperatures–to get around this, owners should try and park in the shade if possible. Furthermore, keeping the state of charge between 20% and 80% is ideal and will prolong the life of the pack compared to very high or very low states of charge.

 

[invertedspear]

I thought the most telling part of the article was the chart towards the end on battery aging vs. climate:

Which is pretty in line with all the recommendations from @MickeyAO that so many people then shat upon with their "well the manual says this, and ..." insert personal anecdote about how they know better than people doing actual lab work on them. Those people will probably still call BS on this article.

You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think.

 

[Maxx]

"How about replacing the engine in your gas vehicle"?

I would love to see stats on that; ICE Engine vs EV motor failure or ICE gas tank vs EV battery pack failure.

Keep in mind, there is only one gas tank in every ICE but you can have 7000 batteries in one EV and a single battery failure could mean mean visiting the shop. My battery pack cost ( $28,556 ) is close to what I paid for my Pro ($40K - $7.5K) with each module costing $4K + Labor to replace along with not knowing if there are anything proprietary in the modules or BMS, it may be more of a crap shoot after year 8 than an ICE. Many of our battery operated devices are recycled after 8 years. My ICE truck was 20 years old with original engine and transmission with no repairs and running when I sold it. Manufacturers don't design these things for DYI repair. I am just saying I made a choice to buy this thing and I don't think people's fears are completely unfounded.

 

[Mach Turtle]

I would love to see stats on that; ICE Engine vs EV motor failure or ICE gas tank vs EV battery pack failure.

Keep in mind, there is only one gas tank in every ICE but you can have 7000 batteries in one EV and a single battery failure could mean mean visiting the shop. My battery pack cost ( $28,556 ) is close to what I paid for my Pro ($40K - $7.5K) with each module costing $4K + Labor to replace along with not knowing if there are anything proprietary in the modules or BMS, it may be more of a crap shoot after year 8 than an ICE. Many of our battery operated devices are recycled after 8 years. My ICE truck was 20 years old with original engine and transmission with no repairs and running when I sold it. Manufacturers don't design these things for DYI repair. I am just saying I made a choice to buy this thing and I don't think people's fears are completely unfounded.

Good points. For the closest thing we can get to an apples-to-apples comparison, we should compare a battery, a couple of motors, and electronics to...an engine, transmission, fuel system, emissions system with catalytic converter(s) and oxygen sensors and all that stuff, ICE electronics, and all the rest.

I agree that we have something to be concerned about. I'm betting that 8-10 years from now, the battery aftermarket and recycling economy will be at least somewhat up to speed, more similar to today's ICE aftermarket and repair, so EV repair and replacement prices will be more reasonable. Might win that bet or might lose it, but going to enjoy the ride.

 

[Refactoringdr]

61k miles on a Platinum and FDRS says my battery health is 99%

 

[FirstF150InCasco]

Every time I drive the truck, instead of worrying about this, I just am thrilled with the ride.

 

[Maxx]

61k miles on a Platinum and FDRS says my battery health is 99%

Even if my battery health goes to 50%, it would not impact my daily use of the truck. Even for the weekend trips, with super chargers where they are, I will be fine. My only concern is battery failure. But as others have mentioned, I don’t let it mess up my enjoyment of the truck and recommending it to others. The way I see it, my ticker may fail before my battery does.

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