Ford BlueCruise OTA Rollout Delayed Until Q1 2022

[TexasTrash]

I installed my v2.0 BC months ago OTA (over the Amazon). It's a 2.5 lb wrist/ankle neoprene weight cut down the middle in half with one of my wife's hairbands on it. Works on 100% of roads with lines, does not get in the way of steering, only weighs 1.25 lbs, goes on easy and pulls off with just a quick tug. It's probably done 1k miles already.

I do the same with mine, works like a charm on my commute to work!

 

[F-150 Prius]

I installed my v2.0 BC months ago OTA (over the Amazon). It's a 2.5 lb wrist/ankle neoprene weight cut down the middle in half with one of my wife's hairbands on it. Works on 100% of roads with lines, does not get in the way of steering, only weighs 1.25 lbs, goes on easy and pulls off with just a quick tug. It's probably done 1k miles already.

The old "exercise weight on the steering wheel" trick, eh?

There's an ankle weight with velcro that people use. It's not something I'd want to risk, but there are far worse drivers out there than negligent abuse of a self-driving system. The Uber test driver that killed someone was charged with negligent homicide. I imagine the law will slowly move to ban this sort of thing. Of course any interference with a vehicle safety device creates liability.

It's not the alert and attentive driver who's just defeating the annoying reminders every 15 seconds, it's the human nature of temptation of distractions as time goes by behind the wheel.

This has been hotly debated for years (I think starting 2018?) as a way to interfere with Tesla Autopilot. Aside from it being obviously insanely dangerous (Autopilot and Ford Co-Pilot require continuous driver supervision with 15 second reminders) the conclusion is simply that any interference with a vehicle's safety equipment resulting in an accident (like running over someone trying to fix a flat tire) will presumably result in a prison sentence.

 

[gtotco]

The old "exercise weight on the steering wheel" trick, eh?

There's an ankle weight with velcro that people use. It's not something I'd want to risk, but there are far worse drivers out there than negligent abuse of a self-driving system. The Uber test driver that killed someone was charged with negligent homicide. I imagine the law will slowly move to ban this sort of thing. Of course any interference with a vehicle safety device creates liability.

It's not the alert and attentive driver who's just defeating the annoying reminders every 15 seconds, it's the human nature of temptation of distractions as time goes by behind the wheel.

This has been hotly debated for years (I think starting 2018?) as a way to interfere with Tesla Autopilot. Aside from it being obviously insanely dangerous (Autopilot and Ford Co-Pilot require continuous driver supervision with 15 second reminders) the conclusion is simply that any interference with a vehicle's safety equipment resulting in an accident (like running over someone trying to fix a flat tire) will presumably result in a prison sentence.

Seconding all of this. This is not how these systems are intended to be used (no matter how many idiot Tesla owners will try and claim otherwise). If companies felt confident these systems would work as intended without driver input and attention they wouldn’t require those things. There are generally not currently any regulations requiring driver monitoring systems. Engineers put them in because they know the limits of these systems and know drivers are not going to understand those limits. If you get in trouble cheating these systems you will be tested the same way legally you would be if you were driving hands off in a car with no ADAs system, so caveat emptor.

 

[JDinNFLA]

I’ll be the first to predict. Ford will never push out the update. They fucking don’t care. company is run by incompetent jack offs. I will be changing brands and never buy from them again.

 

[speedracercjr]

I’ll be the first to predict. Ford will never push out the update. They fucking don’t care. company is run by incompetent jack offs. I will be changing brands and never buy from them again.

Slight adjustment, they won't end up pushing it out via OTA but will either require a dealer visit or USB update.

 

[jperry5835]

All this furor over Blue Cruise, which, let’s be real, is a massive beta test for Ford. Look at how primitive CarPlay, FordPass, and the infotainment programming is. We have a Tesla and; the self driving feature is ,’not ready for prime time’. Engineers say fully safe self -driving is decades away. We don’t plan to buy it on our next Tesla. For 90% of driving it is simply adaptive cruise and lane keeping, which you have already.

While I understand your point, the uproar is not about how safe or not the feature is. The point is the fact that a feature was promised and sold to customers that now Ford is dragging their feet on. If we hadn't paid thousands of dollars already for it, then so be it if it needs to be delayed. But the fact that we already paid for it and do not have it is deceptive selling practices and will likely take a class action suit to resolve.

 

[gtotco]

While I understand your point, the uproar is not about how safe or not the feature is. The point is the fact that a feature was promised and sold to customers that now Ford is dragging their feet on. If we hadn't paid thousands of dollars already for it, then so be it if it needs to be delayed. But the fact that we already paid for it and do not have it is deceptive selling practices and will likely take a class action suit to resolve.

I guess I’m less upset because if there is any lesson this pandemic has taught me it’s patience. Almost everything in my life takes longer than it used to and honestly I’ve just learned to live with it. Right now it’s a few months and I’d rather have something that doesn’t kill me.

If we are still doing this a year from now (nevermind 5 years from now like Tesla) I’ll be upset, but honestly there isn’t much in my life right now that isn’t taking way longer than usual. We just waited 5 months for a flooring delivery that was supposed to be 4 to 6 weeks. It pushed back our project but ultimately I get it. Businesses have to deal with a lot right now.

Edit: also not saying this to say people who are upset are wrong. Just sharing my personal perspective that has taught me to relax about things. This is life in 2021.

 

[JJ_Tex]

I am worried that Ford will raise their bluecruise pricing before the OTA update.

Hopefully that is not the case, but that would really screw over those of us who paid for the prep package and did everything possible to get the software update.

 

[Str8Shooter]

Does the steering wheel weight trick work similar to BlueCruise if you have Ford Co-Pilot360™ Assist 2.0 on a XLT 302A package?

Besides not having active park assist and the nanny eye cameras that come standard with the Ford Co-Pilot Active 2.0, what is missing to duplicate the "essence" of the Bluecruise experience with just Ford Co-Pilot Assist 2.0, a steering wheel weight, and a 302A XLT?

 

[NewtruckinFL]

I am worried that Ford will raise their bluecruise pricing before the OTA update.

Hopefully that is not the case, but that would really screw over those of us who paid for the prep package and did everything possible to get the software update.

At this point I am just hoping that it is even possible to have this software installed on my bluecruise hardware equipped truck. Starting to get nervous that it might take a year or longer (if ever) to get this installed. I wouldn't have said that a month ago until the deadline pushed back twice.

 

[Ron in Oregon]

I was hoping you knew about that option … it's a new one to me.
[/QUO
I have that 'option' also!
My reading is that the chip for the auto-start-stop is in short supply. Initially a rebate was offered if a buyer would forgo the feature. Now it is just noted as 'removed'.
https://www.carsdirect.com/deals-articles/f-150-buyers-can-remove-stop-start-to-get-trucks-sooner

 

[OleCuss]

I've got the hardware but haven't paid for the BlueCruise. Heck, I may choose to never buy the BlueCruise or not purchase it until it can do lane changes and/or tow.

So I figure I'm sort of intermediate. I can understand irritation on the part of those who have paid for BlueCruise and haven't got it (I've paid for the hardware and can't get BlueCruise). I can also understand those who may not be quite as upset as I see the BlueCruise as being of limited benefit and I've not paid for the software as of yet.

But for those who have paid for the software and don't have it? You are losing on the time-value of money. Yes, you'll likely eventually get your software and its functionality but you will have lost out on the use of that money during the time that you did not get the software.

There is a right to be upset about not getting the software at the promised time and it would actually be quite appropriate to get a refund on at least the software and then be allowed to purchase the software when it is finally available to you. That's not quite the same as a refund for the cost of the hardware, but we actually possess the hardware and that makes it somewhat harder to argue for the refund.

But I could easily be missing stuff. But from my perspective the hardware purchase has occurred and I've not paid for the software.

 

[gtotco]

I've got the hardware but haven't paid for the BlueCruise. Heck, I may choose to never buy the BlueCruise or not purchase it until it can do lane changes and/or tow.

So I figure I'm sort of intermediate. I can understand irritation on the part of those who have paid for BlueCruise and haven't got it (I've paid for the hardware and can't get BlueCruise). I can also understand those who may not be quite as upset as I see the BlueCruise as being of limited benefit and I've not paid for the software as of yet.

But for those who have paid for the software and don't have it? You are losing on the time-value of money. Yes, you'll likely eventually get your software and its functionality but you will have lost out on the use of that money during the time that you did not get the software.

There is a right to be upset about not getting the software at the promised time and it would actually be quite appropriate to get a refund on at least the software and then be allowed to purchase the software when it is finally available to you. That's not quite the same as a refund for the cost of the hardware, but we actually possess the hardware and that makes it somewhat harder to argue for the refund.

But I could easily be missing stuff. But from my perspective the hardware purchase has occurred and I've not paid for the software.

Discount $995 at 10% for 1 year (generous) cost is $95 on a $67k truck.

 

[gtotco]

Does the steering wheel weight trick work similar to BlueCruise if you have Ford Co-Pilot360™ Assist 2.0 on a XLT 302A package?

Besides not having active park assist and the nanny eye cameras that come standard with the Ford Co-Pilot Active 2.0, what is missing to duplicate the "essence" of the Bluecruise experience with just Ford Co-Pilot Assist 2.0, a steering wheel weight, and a 302A XLT?

Not at all the same thing. BlueCruise uses additional mapping data including LIDAR mapped highway information (HD maps) along with ultra precise GPS for determining lane position etc. BlueCruise type systems use way more data and are therefore significantly safer than “the weight” system. This is why people keep dying with Autopilot - it isn’t designed the same way BlueCruise/SuperCruise and other upcoming systems (like Toyota Teammate are). By cheating this system you are putting your life and other lives at risk, as well as putting yourself in potential legal liability for reckless driving in case of an accident.

 

[F-150 Prius]

Discount $995 at 10% for 1 year (generous) cost is $95 on a $67k truck.

I think that's logical. Ford could credit the equivalent of say $200 in FordPass Rewards and I'd be fine with it.
It seems to me if they can put it in a new truck today, they can put it in my truck at the dealership today and fix OTA some time next year or whatever is the holdup.

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