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Oh absolutely. Maybe I needed to clarify what I was saying. Talking about how the costs associated with 500 service, upgraded fast charging, etc. it will make it worse than electrify America which is 50-60 cents a kWh on the low end. Additionally, if the truck was made for that input why not just start there?

Technology can be adapted but rarely if ever can it be upgraded without providing the hardware to support the software changes. Before you say so, I’m not bitter or negative about anything with electric vehicles, but this is white noise. Ford needs to do better in aspects that matter, like whatever the abbreviation for the home power is (not the charger but the inverter), or working on expansion packs for the batteries or fast charging capacitors that can be swapped out or carried on long trips, or just maybe a range extender. Like get one out soon, because it’s great to have fast charging but not if you are designing your life around public charging that can be, many times, less than reliable.

Lastly, I’m really on an electrify America bashing session. Not because I think the chargers are terrible, because they usually are the fastest but because of the cost. The other part is that electrify America was supposed to have it setup for 500a anyway, which would go for 10 min then drop off. I don’t know of any vehicles charging with that level of current, so I guess we can see.
I believe tesla chargers have offered this speed of charging to some for some time now. Tesla themselves can go over 600a. There were a few reports of 190kw on the lightnings many months ago which would be 500kw consumed.

It often takes thousands of products and many many miles of testing to determine if something is detrimental. Ford now has three years of owners information to start to evaluate dcfc and its effects on battery degredation. Tesla DNA others have literally been doing this for over a decade now.

The 10 minute and drop-off thing is a Ford deal, not EA.
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I believe tesla has offered this speed of charging for some time now. There were a few reports of 190kw many months ago which would be 500kw consumed.

It often takes thousands of products and many many miles of testing to determine if something is detrimental. Ford now has three years of owners information to start to evaluate dcfc and its effects on battery degredation. Tesla DNA others have literally been doing this for over a decade now.

The 10 minute and drop-off thing is a Ford deal, not EA.
I’m sure Tesla is much further along. The need for that amount of current is indicative of solid state and newer technology that will likely need those levels.
 

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I’m sure Tesla is much further along. The need for that amount of current is indicative of solid state and newer technology that will likely need those levels.
I edited my comment to correct the poor wording

Tesla themselves have been doing over 600a for some time. The model 3 peaks at about 250kw on a 350v (nominal) architecture. That's WELL WELL over 500a.

I was saying that the Lightning itself has done over 190kw on some tesla stations.
 

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If you have an Android phone, google maps in android auto allows preconditioning
Only if it works...I have an update past where that was supposed to work but it's not working. I'm wondering if the truck is missing a different update in a different module or something that makes that work.

But more critically I'm also missing karaoke...:crackup:
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