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Just got back from a road trip in my 2024 Lightning Lariat (so, the ER battery). The route was basically: Phoenix —> Los Angeles —> Sacramento —> Portland —> Missoula —> Salt Lake —> Las Vegas —> Phoenix.

Total miles: 3338

Average mi/kWh: 1.8

Worst efficiency: 1.1 mi/kWh (25 F with a 25-30 mph headwind, going 75-80 mph)

Best efficiency: 2.4 mi/kWh (75 F, no wind, slight downhill, going 70 mph)

Speeds: In 65 mph zones, I would go ~70. In 75 mph zones, I would go 75-80 mph. In 80 mph zones, I would go 80. I did not baby it, only backed off a couple of times when ABRP started to estimate my ending SoC < 5%.

ABRP with OBD connection: Excellent. Coming from tens of thousands of road trip miles with a Tesla Model Y Long Range, ABRP is about as good, maybe better than, the Tesla route planning software at predicting my ending SoC in variable conditions. I had legs of the trip that started out at 50 F and ended a 30 F, in the mountains, with a stiff headwind, and the predicted SoC was within 2% of what I pulled in with. When it was relatively flat it would often be exactly right. In some cases it was 5-10% too pessimistic, which is sort of annoying but if I saw it creep up I knew I could increase my speed. (And I suppose it’s better than it being consistently optimistic!) My calibrated reference consumption currently sits at 2.48 mi/kWh (with my training percentages at: low speed: 77%, medium speed: 84%, high speed: 84%). I am super pleased with ABRP. The Ford planning software seemed ok but not very accurate, and I never used it after the first few legs. Apple Maps was always way too pessimistic, which leads to wasting time over-charging, and provides almost no data in terms of where it plans charges, etc. I might be missing something, of course.

Preconditioning: Didn’t bother (well, didn't bother using the Ford route planning), and it didn’t seem to matter much, at least at the temps I was traveling at. I would usually start the DCFC session with about 10-20 SoC, and immediately get to 170-180 kW. Highest I saw was 191 when it was about 75 F.

Networks: probably 75% Tesla, 25% EA. I tried to favor EA, just for the adventure, but man when you pull off the highway and you see 4 EA chargers on one side of the highway and 40-80 Tesla stalls on the other side (which happens in California quite a bit), it’s hard to go EA. In EA’s defense, whenever I used them I never waited and they never stranded me, but in the majority of cases the first plug-in didn’t work. Not sure why. So I’d move over one stall, or try again, or try a different way, and eventually get it. On Tesla, every stall worked the first time except for one in Oregon. Speeds were the same as best I could tell.

Bluecruise: I thought it worked really well. Used it on essentially all roads where it was active, except a few places with road construction. I am coming to the end of my trial, and I am going to buy it for the year. Really excellent if you are on major highways (I REALLY wish they would expand the network out west to state highways, etc.!). I think I have v1.4 (it does auto lane changes with me initiating the turn signal). Its behavior around trucks, where it gives the semi a bit of space, is excellent. Zero phantom break events (which, coming from Tesla, is so nice, I would typically have 1 major, very scary, phantom break event once every 500 miles or so in my model Y). I vastly prefer it to Tesla AP or FSD, but of course YMMV.

Overall: I was surprised, a bit shocked actually, that road tripping this beast is almost exactly the same sort of experience as I found in my model Y long range. The charging sessions were about as long, and the distances traveled between charges about the same. On stretches that I know well from my model Y days, the stops were essentially the same (in some cases there were places I would stop in the Tesla where I can’t charge the Lightning because they are older V2 chargers, so I’d just go to a nearby EA station). Overall a very good cadence of charge-drive-charge-drive-charge-drive-etc., for me at least, as someone who is quite used to EV road tripping. I think Ford opening up to 500 amp charging, to allow rates above 150 kW, is really great …. Ford, you should open it up more! The Lightning is quiet, comfortable, sure-footed in the snow, and roomy. It crushed the Montana back roads. It’s not efficient compared to a model 3 or a Lucid, of course, but it’s efficient for what it is. I love it, it’s a fantastic machine and a great road tripper.

Happy to answer questions if there are any. Just wanted to get a positive story out there since I’ve run into some negative posts on here lately.
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Nice write up! Can you talk a little more about your Vegas to Phoenix leg? I made the trip a couple summers ago ('22 Lariat ER) and I remember the stretch from Kingman south made me a little nervous. Granted... it was my first road trip in the truck so it is understandable. What did you charge to in Kingman, how fast were you going, and where did you charge when you got to the Phoenix area?

I see Tesla has new chargers planned for Wikieup and Wickenburg but I don't see any progress on them in the TMC forums. I do know there is a Ford dealership in Wickenburg as a last resort.
 
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Nice write up! Can you talk a little more about your Vegas to Phoenix leg? I made the trip a couple summers ago ('22 Lariat ER) and I remember the stretch from Kingman south made me a little nervous. Granted... it was my first road trip in the truck so it is understandable. What did you charge to in Kingman, how fast were you going, and where did you charge when you got to the Phoenix area?

I see Tesla has new chargers planned for Wikieup and Wickenburg but I don't see any progress on them in the TMC forums. I do know there is a Ford dealership in Wickenburg as a last resort.
Yeah, that was the hardest stretch, the AZ infrastructure is weirdly lacking north and west of Phoenix. I charged to (if I recall) 81% in Kingman, got to Phoenix with 15% (where I charged at home). I was going more-or-less 5 over the speed limit, which is of course about 15 mph less than everyone else on that crazy stretch of road.

I did sort of look around Wikieup for the new Tesla chargers, no sign of them as far as I can tell. I am not sure where they are supposed to go in Wikenburg, although there are apparently some Rivian chargers going in at Wikenburg and they are supposedly opening up their network (a few already are open to other cars, one in CA and at least two in MT that I know of). Fingers crossed, could really use something to cover that gap!
 

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Yeah, that was the hardest stretch, the AZ infrastructure is weirdly lacking north and west of Phoenix. I charged to (if I recall) 81% in Kingman, got to Phoenix with 15% (where I charged at home). I was going more-or-less 5 over the speed limit, which is of course about 15 mph less than everyone else on that crazy stretch of road.

I did sort of look around Wikieup for the new Tesla chargers, no sign of them as far as I can tell. I am not sure where they are supposed to go in Wikenburg, although there are apparently some Rivian chargers going in at Wikenburg and they are supposedly opening up their network (a few already are open to other cars, one in CA and at least two in MT that I know of). Fingers crossed, could really use something to cover that gap!
Thanks again for the post. I will try to remember to grab some stats when I make the trip in June and then share my experience. I don't have a "fear of making it" problem... I know I will make it just fine... It's just nice to hear how others have fared in the same stretch of road.

I will say though that the first time making the trip I 100% had range anxiety since it was my first road trip in the truck.
 
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Thanks again for the post. I will try to remember to grab some stats when I make the trip in June and then share my experience. I don't have a "fear of making it" problem... I know I will make it just fine... It's just nice to hear how others have fared in the same stretch of road.

I will say though that the first time making the trip I 100% had range anxiety since it was my first road trip in the truck.
No, totally, I agree and I get it. The first trip I took in the truck was up to Flagstaff in the winter, and while I knew in my head I would make it, it was still nerve wracking since it was new (and there is essentially zero chargers once you get out of the valley). Part of my reason for making this long trip was trying to get things dialed in, so that I could have more confidence in trips like the PHX-Kingman and the PHX-Flag.
 

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Have a trip coming up at the beginning of May from Raleigh, NC to Miami, FL with a trip to Key West, FL while down there. Roughly 800 miles each way plus another 200 or so for the Key West trip. Planning to stay overnight about half way on the way down and back and won't be in a hurry so currently on the fence of taking the Lightning or just going the easy route with the Ram. Probably depend on how the weather looks. If I do go with the Lightning, I'll probably use Tesla on the way down and EA on the way back. Also gotta stop at Buc-ees so may give the expensive Mercedes chargers a try.
 

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Have a trip coming up at the beginning of May from Raleigh, NC to Miami, FL with a trip to Key West, FL while down there. Roughly 800 miles each way plus another 200 or so for the Key West trip. Planning to stay overnight about half way on the way down and back and won't be in a hurry so currently on the fence of taking the Lightning or just going the easy route with the Ram. Probably depend on how the weather looks. If I do go with the Lightning, I'll probably use Tesla on the way down and EA on the way back. Also gotta stop at Buc-ees so may give the expensive Mercedes chargers a try.
Not sure about other places, but Bucees in Texas typically has Tesla and another brand DCFC in different areas of the parking lot!
 

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yeah they also have Tesla but figure I might as well give the Mercedes ones a try. That and the Daytona Beach one always seem to be at least 50% used when I look and I'm sure every other stall is in use.
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