Gorilla Recommending 95 ft / lb vs OEM 150 ft / lb ?

[Snippy]

Hi All,

Just purchased this set of gorilla lug nuts (seem to be the same size and shape of OEM).

Paper in the box (and confirmed by calling Gorilla directly) recommends 95 ft / lb for these 14 x 1.5 lug nuts.

Ford says lug nuts for the f150 should be 150 ft / lb. What should I do?

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[sempifi99]

I've never heard of Gorilla brand. I would say return them and get something else. If they max out at 95 lbs and the F-150 needs 150 lbs, you need to get something that can be tightened down to recommended specs.

 

[Snakebitten]

Gorilla lug nuts are hugely popular with F150 crowd because they don't have the flimsy deformed outside shell.
But I've never heard it discussed to use less torque than oem (150) on the truck.

 

[Snippy]

Gorilla lug nuts are hugely popular with F150 crowd because they don't have the flimsy deformed outside shell.
But I've never heard it discussed to use less torque than oem (150) on the truck.

That’s what I’ve noticed based on the forums, but these seem to be the OEM replacement everyone recommends. Im wondering if maybe there was a misprint on the paper in the box.

 

[Snakebitten]

I really don't know what to tell you. But I've read tons of posts and reviews and never heard it mentioned, which seems strange.
Is there anything on the packaging that mentions F150? Because that would mean something. But the F150 is far from the only vehicle with the same pitch and thread size.

 

[Snippy]

The box says model # 61148BCX UPC # 012619310708

That part # leads me to this product page https://www.cjponyparts.com/gorilla...e-f-150-2015-2021-raptor-2017-2020/p/WHLLN40/

I've had them at 150lbs since I bought them and so far I haven't noticed anything out of the ordinary with the truck / wheels, but I hope there's no damage.

 

[Snakebitten]

I think you are doing the right thing torquing to oem spec.
And I doubt the paperwork meant 95lbs was all they are rated for. 95-100lbs is a very common torque spec for cars. So it could just be poor documentation.

They are superior to oem Ford lug nuts in every way that you can measure.

 

[Snippy]

I figured as such, but just wanted to verify. I mean the box was sealed and I cant be the only one buying this model # and torquing to spec.

Lets just hope there's no updated thread later on titled "my wheels fell off". lol.

 

[WDWFordGuy]

Torque values are specific to fasteners, it has to do with the material of the fastener and at what point the threads become properly engaged. Over torqueing can cause the fasteners to fail. If the fasteners is properly engaged at 95 its probably OK. If the lug nuts are designed for 95 then 150 may actually weaken the connection. That being said, I don't think most people (or tire shops for that matter) actually torque their lug nuts, lol.


Disclaimer: I am not a mechanical engineer (just work with them) and I have not done any analysis or research on the lugs or the nuts.

 

[Snakebitten]

Agreed, except usually proper torque specs take in consideration both pieces of the fastening solution. In this case the lug/stud and the nut. Since they are rarely purchased as a set in the average automotive world, I still don't believe the piece of paper in the package represents some limit that the nut can withstand.

Worst case scenario, you wouldn't likely see 24 of them fail simultaneously. Or even 6 on the same wheel. Or..... Well you get the idea.

If you are worried, remove a random nut or two occasionally and inspect for ANY sign of failure. It would be pretty visible with a good light and close scrutiny.

 

[WDWFordGuy]

Agreed, except usually proper torque specs take in consideration both pieces of the fastening solution. In this case the lug/stud and the nut. Since they are rarely purchased as a set in the average automotive world, I still don't believe the piece of paper in the package represents some limit that the nut can withstand.

Worst case scenario, you wouldn't likely see 24 of them fail simultaneously. Or even 6 on the same wheel. Or..... Well you get the idea.

If you are worried, remove a random nut or two occasionally and inspect for ANY sign of failure. It would be pretty visible with a good light and close scrutiny.

True... typicaly you would use the same grade hardware for both pieces, but if not the lower grade would be the spec you would use.

I also agree the number on the paper isn't the absolute limit, there is always a safety factor built in.

 

[RedundanT]

I always used a 100 pound torque stick on my '17 and in 40k miles I was never passed by my own wheel. If Gorilla says 95 then 95 would be my number. Personally 150 ftlbs is a Bitch to loosen at the side of the road with that crappy lug wrench Ford provided.

 

[Wvmtneer]

I always used a 100 pound torque stick on my '17 and in 40k miles I was never passed by my own wheel. If Gorilla says 95 then 95 would be my number. Personally 150 ftlbs is a Bitch to loosen at the side of the road with that crappy lug wrench Ford provided.

That’s why i keep a 2ft breaker bar in the truck. I also purchased the gorilla telescoping breaker bar as well.

 

[ROBB1]

Hi All,

Just purchased this set of gorilla lug nuts (seem to be the same size and shape of OEM).

Paper in the box (and confirmed by calling Gorilla directly) recommends 95 ft / lb for these 14 x 1.5 lug nuts.

Ford says lug nuts for the f150 should be 150 ft / lb. What should I do?

Gorilla says to use the vehicle OEM torque spec and only if that is not available use their suggestion.
http://www.gorilla-auto.com/gorilla-tech-tips-page-02

 

[jeffcrum]

That’s why i keep a 2ft breaker bar in the truck. I also purchased the gorilla telescoping breaker bar as well.

I keep this handy
https://www.homedepot.com/p/RYOBI-O...G-S-SEBQsd8hNOr8-fhoC-Z0QAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

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