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This may prove useful:

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Those dates are out there, but I strong suspect they are going to move. Based on this forum about half of the 2022 orders are still waiting to be scheduled and that early October cutoff only gives them 6 weeks to schedule into since they already scheduled August.
 

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So update on my experience, dealer may be willing to lower ADM, but not remove. In the meantime I have another dealer that’s confirmed no ADM and will honor MSRP. Here’s image of their email. Anything else I should do before calling corporate and switching dealers?
I am in the same situation. Spent some time talking with Ford regarding this scenario. They said I could definitely change dealers before submitting the order. HOWEVER - they could not guarantee my order would be built due to the receiving dealers likely having no remaining allocation. Unfortunately, I believe there are very few dealers with allocation left as this is the final wave and all remaining allocations were targeted to specific reservation holders. I talked to two MSRP dealers in hopes of switching, but they said they had zero allocation left and were not sure what would happen if I switched from my ADM dealer. I still have not submitted - I'm waiting for someone else to switch and report back on the results!
 

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So update on my experience, dealer may be willing to lower ADM, but not remove. In the meantime I have another dealer that’s confirmed no ADM and will honor MSRP. Here’s image of their email. Anything else I should do before calling corporate and switching dealers?
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That looks like a contract to sell for MSRP to me. Good job. Now make sure they have remaining allocation.

edit--You might nail them down on dealer prep items like pinstriping, nitrogen filled tires and and paint protection. Make sure they don't charge you for thousands of dollars of fluff.

I have placed my order. No ADM in the order. Now I have to wait and see whether, once it's delivered, the dealer adds ADM when the it comes time to sign a Purchase Agreement. I like your position better. Wish I had done what you did.
 

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I am in the same situation. Spent some time talking with Ford regarding this scenario. They said I could definitely change dealers before submitting the order. HOWEVER - they could not guarantee my order would be built due to the receiving dealers likely having no remaining allocation. Unfortunately, I believe there are very few dealers with allocation left as this is the final wave and all remaining allocations were targeted to specific reservation holders. I talked to two MSRP dealers in hopes of switching, but they said they had zero allocation left and were not sure what would happen if I switched from my ADM dealer. I still have not submitted - I'm waiting for someone else to switch and report back on the results!
I’ve started a new thread specifically for this.
 

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That looks like a contract to sell for MSRP to me. Good job. Now make sure they have remaining allocation.

edit--You might nail them down on dealer prep items like pinstriping, nitrogen filled tires and and paint protection. Make sure they don't charge you for thousands of dollars of fluff.

I have placed my order. No ADM in the order. Now I have to wait and see whether, once it's delivered, the dealer adds ADM when the it comes time to sign a Purchase Agreement. I like your position better. Wish I had done what you did.
yeah the dealer allocation is an interesting discussion. I know the wave7 invites were through dealers, but I now have the order, so I’m not sure if changing dealers (even if dealer is out of allocations) will jeopardize my order or not. I can see the argument either way. Also hoping for someone who has indeed switched to chime in. I’ve started a new thread for that specifically so we shall see.
 

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yeah the dealer allocation is an interesting discussion. I know the wave7 invites were through dealers, but I now have the order, so I’m not sure if changing dealers (even if dealer is out of allocations) will jeopardize my order or not. I can see the argument either way. Also hoping for someone who has indeed switched to chime in. I’ve started a new thread for that specifically so we shall see.
I was able to do this. And for context maybe allocation is also per specific local region. The dealership I transferred to is within 10 miles so maybe that helps too.
 
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I was able to do this. And for context maybe allocation is also per specific local region. The dealership I transferred to is within 10 miles so maybe that helps too.

True..a lot of the additional allocations went to ZEV states...
 

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True..a lot of the additional allocations went to ZEV states...
My order was from a ZEV state. He stated they got 8 allocations. They had 11 converted orders before that and 12 reservations cancelled.
 

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Yeah similar story here -- been working through my dealership since May and talked through things a ton. Kept saying no ADM and then when I went to order today there's a $10k ADM on there. Sales guys call the owner and he says "I have to keep pace with the market." So now I'm looking for a new dealership. OG dealership was Ford of Upland in Southern California -- any SoCal folks that have a reputable dealership they can point me towards. I know calling Ford may jeopardize my spot, but I'm not paying $10k over -- I'll risk getting bumped into MY23.
I contacted Upland Ford in May 2021 and they said they will charge ADM.

Spent the whole day calling 5 dealers near me and all said ADM - including Fritts Ford which I really liked but they were charging ADM initially then backed off later with $0 ADM.

I ended up with Ken Grody Ford in Orange - 2 counties away but no ADM.

To this day, a year later, Ken Grody Ford is still $0 ADM.
 

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I forgot to ask them to sign it, but I do have a copy of the printout from their system. I have a text message from their system as well. I also had a discussion about it with my salesman and their vehicle inventory manager who is managing all the lightning orders. The assured me that it was their policy to charge MSRP on customer orders. However, vehicles on the lot are a different story. They also don't do any dealer addons like tint or nitrogen in the tires unless the customer requests it.
Ask your dealer for a buyer's order sheet and have both parties sign.

When my wave 6 order deposit was paid, my dealer contacted me to sign their form either in person or by email.

This was what was agreed upon:
Ford F-150 Lightning Wave 7 Orders & Allocations --Phone Call from Dealer KenGrodyFord -KUDO- Preview Order 0513 - W1E - 4x4 SuperCrew- P Kudo
 

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Ask your dealer for a buyer's order sheet and have both parties sign.

When my wave 6 order deposit was paid, my dealer contacted me to sign their form either in person or by email.

This was what was agreed upon:
KenGrodyFord -KUDO- Preview Order 0513 - W1E - 4x4 SuperCrew- P Kudo.jpg
I asked for this and my dealer said they don't send it out, but I have it written outside of that it is MSRP only. Maybe I should pop in and force it?
 

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I asked for this and my dealer said they don't send it out, but I have it written outside of that it is MSRP only. Maybe I should pop in and force it?
You need a signature from the dealership on some document - even an e-mail may not be helpful to you as they can claim the person exceeded their authority. If that e-mail is from the sales manager, you'll have some legs to stand on.

Unfortunately, the behavior of many dealers we've seen in the past few days is demonstrating that most dealers are going to be slimy, and the minority are not. And that's a shame.
 

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Ask your dealer for a buyer's order sheet and have both parties sign.

When my wave 6 order deposit was paid, my dealer contacted me to sign their form either in person or by email.

This was what was agreed upon:
KenGrodyFord -KUDO- Preview Order 0513 - W1E - 4x4 SuperCrew- P Kudo.jpg
I have a printout of that, but they didn't ask me to sign it and I didn't ask them to. I know it can become a headache if they attempt to change things after the order, but so far they've been really cool and I'm admittedly naively trusting them.

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You should ask for a signed Retail Buyer’s Order. It is to include total out-the-door pricing (purchase price + all taxes & fees). It won’t include any trade-in info but is a pretty solid guarantee of final price.
 

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10/10/2022 if memory serves me well is build week one of MY 2023 production, last build week of MY2022 10/3
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