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We didn't buy our Lariat last weekend planning to flip it, but we've made the decision to sell it in a week or two to a local dealer for about what we paid for it, with regret...

Last year when we got confirmation that GM was going to buy back my Bolt I ordered a Mach E and a Lighting (eventually to be a Lariat) as potential replacements, not sure which would come in first or what would be a better fit. We knew we would be moving across town in '22 and the truck would be a great help, but that it was likely the Mach E would come in first.

We were able to spend last fall sharing a car as I tend to travel a lot for work, especially in the fall, and hoped that one of the vehicles would come in early in 22. No dice. Finally, We had to move into the new house and picked up a Maverick locally, moved, and continued to wait. By may the Mach E finally arrived and I loved it. No question. We considered getting the deposit back on the Lightning because it didn't have a build date yet but my father-in-law really wanted the Maverick and couldn't find one so we promised that to him as my wife was pretty excited about the Lightning. The size difference was something we thought about but with the 360 cameras,
we figured no problem. By the time the Lariat was on its way to us early this month we took the trusty Maverick down to Long Beach and shipped it off to my father in Law on Oahu and waited for the Lighting, which arrived last weekend.

We were still careful. My wife had driven another F150, we checked out the cameras and were cool with everything so we signed and brought it home. Turns out our first mistake was we paid for it outright and didn't finance any of it - but we didn't know what was to come. I knew it was going to be a tight fit in the garage, but we only have 1.5" of extra space once the truck is in to divide between the front and the rear in order to fit it in and close the door. This has turned out to be a bigger deal than expected. I've tried putting a chart on the wall in front of where the camera is, the tennis ball, but when push comes to shove putting the truck in the garage has just boiled down to a 2 person exercise where I must drive the truck in while my wife acts as tarmac spotter talking me down the last four inches manually. She won't do it and I can't do it myself in less than a few minutes without getting out and looking and moving it a half inch at a time which is not easy in this vehicle. In past vehicles, I could get out, see how many more inches I wanted to move and hang my foot out the driver's door and watch my shoe move along the textured epoxy flakes that exact amount, but in the truck my leg is 3' too short. Once its parked, the garage has to be opened again to get to anything else in the garage which is on the far side of the truck. No, we can't put it in the driveway, the new house doesn't have a driveway...

After doing it for a week, we made the rounds and showed the truck to a couple local dealers and will be taking an offer from one of them. If we had meant to flip it we would have done things differently. One dealer scoled us thinking we were flippers and advised us that we should have purchased as a Montana corporation to avoid sales tax, and if you want to turn a vehicle around quickly I guess you should actually finance part of it through Ford Motor Credit or something. Its a lot faster for a dealer to simply call them and verify that they hold the lein, and what the payoff is - they can get a title in a few days with that but now in CA, because I paid cash I have to wait basically until the title comes in before I can actually transfer it to the dealer.

I did check with the dealer we purchased from, but the salesman advised me they were not paying top dollar - he did bless the deal the other dealer made as sounding fair for a dealer trade in. I'm not looking at doing any sort of Craigslist drama.

So there is my (A) Cautionary Tale, or (B) Episide of Stupidity on Display for all to See. There will, pretty soon be a perfect Lightning Lariat available in Santa Clarita looking for a forever home. We will look for another hybrid Mavrick and remember that these are all first world problems.

Unless there is a setting on that giant screen to suck the length down by 14"? Didn't think so...

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Awesome write up and don’t beat yourself up about it too much.

curious why you did the buyback option with the bolt and not the substitution of collateral. I went down the path of buyback but they only offered me what I considered was a lowball so I restarted the process. Waiting on a Colorado zr2 with a production week of 9/5.
 

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Could have brought an ice loaner home and known this.

4x4 on the floor braced to wall. Pad on the wall. 2" to spare.
 

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I have no garage and this picture is my fathers garage. Since he ordered a 2023 Pro in wave 1, he wanted me to park mine in his garage. Bottom line is we have to fold mirrors as pictured to get it in, with about 3” to spare on each side driving in. Not for the faint of heart. He guided me in and out, but with practice I think it will be doable. The key is to go straight in and out.

So sorry the no driveway didn’t workout! I absolutely do not miss my Tesla Model y and love this truck.
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curious why you did the buyback option with the bolt and not the substitution of collateral. I went down the path of buyback but they only offered me what I considered was a lowball so I restarted the process.

You are also in CA, so it should have been similar rules. Maybe because I was the original owner and maybe you weren't? I took my car in right away when the first recall notice went in?

By California state law they had to offer me a lemon law buyback on the bolt if I insisted and there is a mandatory formula to calculate the amount - no negotiation. In my case it was about $32k IIRC, and that was for a 17 Bolt with nearly 90k miles. I loved the car but given the choice I took the cash. That money sat in the bank and paid for most of the net cost of the Mach E that replaced it - essentially I traded a 90k Bolt for a Mach E and only had to pay a few thousand dollars and some patience.

I racked the car on Onstar for quite some time as I hoped to repurchase it once it got a new batter and send that out to my in-laws - but the onstar was eventually shut off and they ended up with the Maverick instead...
 

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Not to turn this into a bolt buyback discussion but sounds like you got a great buyback. My offer was 23k based on original lease terms. Leasing vs. owning is probably the difference but I ended up paying it off for 21k.

thanks for the info!
 
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Could have brought an ice loaner home and known this.

4x4 on the floor braced to wall. Pad on the wall. 2" to spare.
It would have been easier to buy a different house. I don't think the dealers have any F150 loaners to let people drive home. I was aware of the dimensions, but only got as far as "it fits", I didn't do the math on "but my wife will refuse to park it" however. Its been a busy year. Mea culpa. I Did start by hanging a moving blanket on the wall in case I hit it, but it just gets sucked forward by the AC fans making it difficult to judge the true distance to the wall. Driving it till it hits is not an option for us. Not for the truck or for the house or for the stuff on the shelf on the other side of that wall. The only option is to stop before touching the wall.

Eventually, I would get lazy and the garage door would scrape the rear bumper. Know yourself. I would also occasionally hit the wall, which is my wife's home office. That would not go over well. Know your wife.

The truck is still perfect and only has about 70 miles, it will be ok where it is until the title is available.
 
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Not to turn this into a bolt buyback discussion but sounds like you got a great buyback. My offer was 23k based on original lease terms. Leasing vs. owning is probably the difference but I ended up paying it off for 21k.

thanks for the info!
For those that purchased it was a simple calculation. They noted the mileage for the first time the car was brought in for service for that particular issue (HV battery) and divide that 120,000 miles. That percentage is then multiplied by, and then deducted from, the total price you paid out the door, plus all interest on your financing.

I got a recall notice early in my ownership for a misc. HV battery problem and took the car in right away, so the amount deducted was very small and I got a lot of money back.

So - not to make this about bolt buyback specifically - the broader point is that in CA any time you get a recall notice, or have any warranty issue, take your car in right away because the lower the mileage on record the better your compensation later if you have a lemon law buyback.

I had a Bluecruise issue on my Mach E, so I took it in before 1500 miles for precisely this reason.
 

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This is why I choose to live in a suburb, gotta have that parking availability. Since you're selling it I hope you're getting your dollars worth. I wouldn't want to sell for $90K and the dealer flip for $130K. smh.
 

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You know you can put a laser in ceiling that shines directly down on your dash on a target telling you exactly how far to pull up? Some even beep. You mark off the acceptable target areas and you will never miss your landing spot. There are a bunch on the market.

The other method even easier is to put two rubber stops on the floor of garage, you roll forward and when you hit these you stop. They sell them premade or you can screw in your own. Just mark the floor where you want them when car is in garage then install when car is out of garage.

And one last suggestion, on your garage door put a laser sensor that won't let you close the garage door if the truck is too far back for peace of mind. You probabaly have one of these already, you just nee to adjust the position or install a second one higher up near truck bed door.

Personally I'd put both in all three for piece of mind. They are cheap and you've covered all the bases. I bet there are even others out there. Wonder if you could tap into the parking LIDAR sensors and it would tell you your exact distance on the dash? You can also front sensor on your own that all give you an exact readout on dash of distance within an inch or better yet a mechanical bumper switch that buzzes inside your car when you are right where you want.

Keep the truck if you WANT it and engineer a solution! Heck at some point the self driving mode may just pull it in for you. (I'm not ready to trust that just yet). If you really want a challenge try med mooring a sailboat with two million dollar yachts on either side with only a bumpers clearance while going backwards in 15 kt winds with a large crowd of Europeans watching you from the restaurant seats. At least you don't have an audience! (oh and lose your bow thruster leaving days later due to a fish getting sucked in)

Good luck whatever you decide. But life is full of surprises. I can suggest a few of these products if you have an interest. I put one in my dads house cause he couldn't judge distance when pulling in car. I'll likely do in our own garage as unless I keep the truck back to the door we'll loose walking space in that side of garage which is not much to begin with. Not willing to take away from my man cave on the other side which extends further.

Relativistically speaking you can shorten the length of car but the problem is by time you stop your wife's office would have a very large window. Technically you would grow younger, but when your wife sees what you did that might change the equation. :ROFLMAO:

L= L(initial Lightning length) * SQRT (1-v*v/c*c)
As a ballpark rule of thumb you can decrease the car length in half at velocity of 0.86 x c. If you need only 14" then it's 14/231.7" or 6% which is 66 miles/sec. Among other engineering issues there will definitely be a braking issue.

More details here https://www.cantorsparadise.com/length-contraction-in-einsteins-theory-of-relativity-7070ecd04e53
 
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I think I'd need the ablative ceramic clearbra on the front to keep the paint nice if I was going to drive it that fast... (Actually since you like the math, is there enough juice in the battery to get it going that fast - if we cheat and assume that air resistance didn't increase with speed - just math out the 0-60 time, acceleration, current draw, and battery capacity?)

Of course the problem is I'd like it shorter when parked...

I thought about wheel chocks, that could potentially solve the positioning problem but we've still lost access to the entire garage unless we open the door, kinda like the photo above except everything you would want to get to is on the other side of the truck.

I use lasers like that at work, but they would;ldn't solve the problem where the wife won't park the truck... its as much a control issue as a position/information one. Its hard to creep with precision. wheel chocks with pads you drive onto before you hit the stop could work if I could be sure they could never move.

As noted above I'm feeling dumb about this because I let the length become a binary decision, "will it fit.?" I didn't follow on with the question of "will it work once its in... ?" and I know better. I let the truck seduce me with its charms.
 

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I’m sorry to hear about this but, as they say, shit happens. You tried, good on ya.

If it was me i’d probably blow out the front wall in the garage to make it fit but i’m kind of crazy. 😁
 

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And i thought i was screwed having only about 6 inches of clearance.

Here's a tip. While in Drive, you can hit the 360 camera and it'll display the 360 camera so you know how close to pull up.
 

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And i thought i was screwed having only about 6 inches of clearance.

Here's a tip. While in Drive, you can hit the 360 camera and it'll display the 360 camera so you know how close to pull up.
I actually prefer using the backup camera to position in the garage. If I needed to position exactly, I’d mark a line on the floor that would just come in to view of the rear camera as I pulled in.
 

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Sorry for your impending loss, I have a tight fit also, got a large batten of cushion foam from Joanne Fabrics (costly stuff) to isolate my front bumper from potential scratching, and I carefully pull in, and can't leave the trailer hitch on either.
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