Correct, Launch Edition Quad Motor/Large Pack with the powered tonneau cover.
I would only be considering a dual motor, and potentially a max pack because of my need for highway distance driving.
Unfortunately, it may not be a direct comparison. I'm hesitant to make that assumption until I test one out. The motors are a completely different design, even the battery pack uses different cells, and the available drive modes are different as well.
FWIW I think it uses identical battery cells. The different battery cells comes from the different level battery packs.
Because I was at a public charger, charging was significantly slower at higher percentage, and I was already going to get home pretty late on a week night. Was trying to get home before 10pm, I ended up making it back a little after.
Thank you - 2.5 - '23 Lariat ER 4,950 miles - 10 months so a cold winter. Range is an issue - 320 is a functional 230 on long drives & less in winter cold/summer heat. Cost/range/infrastructure issues.I have some real data for you so you don't need to speculate and potentially be disapointed.
My Lightning ER has a lifetime average of 2.1mi/kWh over 15,000 miles. My R1T has a lifetime average of 2.14mi/kWh over 10,000 miles (mix usage of All Terrains, Sport, and Comfort Wheels/Tires). Lifetime, we're talking about a 2% difference over the life of the vehicles. Small enough to account for any usage differences. (EPA rates them 3% apart in efficiency)
The key is how you're using it. Towing a trailer? The Ford is more efficient. Going on a long drive by yourself? Take the Rivian.
Data:
Both trucks have done the 1000 mile round trip a multitude of times.
Ford: 1.8-2.1mi/kWh over the trips depending on weather.
R1T on Conserve, slammed on low suspension settings: On sport wheels I get 2.4-2.6mi/kWh. I can get as high as 2.6-2.8mi/kWh on the ugly comfort wheels.
The usable battery capacity helps as well, I've gone 320 real world miles on the Rivian with miles to spare. Rivian's range projector is also much more accurate, helping with predictability. I usually beat what was displayed. On this one it says full charge is 335, but you can see on my current drive I'm actually projected to have a max range of 347 miles (229 miles dividied by .66 = 347). I ended up stopping after ~340mi actually driven with 12 indicated remaining.
I've never hit 300 real world miles on the Ford on that trip. Range wise, we're looking at a 20% difference in overall range.
Factor in the higher charging rate and it ends up being quite a bit of a difference. How much are we talking about in reality?
~15min in optimal conditions. ~1 hour in suboptimal conditions.
It's situational but there have been times where I've needed a 2nd stop in the Lightning where I made it in the R1T. But if both trucks stop the same amount of time, it's pretty negligible because of the charge curves. The Ford I charge to 80% and go. The R1T I charge to 70% and go. The end result is after the 1st leg it starts evening out.
I've even done the trip in a Tesla Model X 60D with a max charging speed of 120kW and real world range of about 130-150 miles. It requires 6x the amount of stops but because of the availability and consistency of the supercharger it was a total difference of about 30min...over the course of a 8-9 hour drive. Knowing your charge curve is extremely important as well as my first time on that trip took 12 hours. But even at 30min more it FEELS significantly worse due to the high number of stops.
Unfortunately, EVs need to be learned and it's all because of charging infrastructure, not range. Long post, hope it helps.
Does your truck have Max Tow? I have a theory that Max Tow trucks are less efficient.
Probably not that dramatic but maybe. I laid out my theory in this post on another thread.
