Dedicated Winters Hakka vs XIce vs Blizzak

[Heliian]

Did you ever try using their warranty? IIRC the x-ice are the only snow tires I saw that have a mileage warranty.

It was the ltx line, but the prorated warranties are pretty bunk. They killed a good product so I dropped them as a brand.

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[kstevens]

Just put Nokian R5s on my 23 PRO. My first non-studded winter tire, but I couldn't bring myself to put studs on and sacrifice just how smooth and quiet the truck is. Tires are mounted to new American Racing Outlaw wheels - I really like the simple work truck look compared to most stuff out there. Wheels fit great, even better than the stock 18s. I had the tires road-force balanced, and it is barely any louder than the original summers. Whole setup did great making a few firewood deliveries this weekend.

 

[mr.Magoo]

Nice !

I actually like the look too, surprisingly...

You'll be happy with non-studded, unless you do a lot of two-track driving and snow tends to get packed to solid ice, other than that the studless outperformes studded (IMHO)
I've had studless Hakkas in the past on multiple vehicles, both FWD and AWD and I really have no complaints so I'm excited to see how they handle on the Lightning.

But, I might have jinxed winter in MI by getting mine, that with El Niño and our predictions for a real winter look rather bleak.

 

[stevey_frac]

I don't get the hate for Michelins. I've always had very good luck with Michelins in general, and they always rate highly on independent testing.

They're among the best on Tire Racks testing:
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/testDisplay.jsp?ttid=263

And they tie for second with the Blizaks in Consumer reports:
https://www.consumerreports.org/products/tires/ratings/?type=winter-snow-tire

I don't typically have issues with treadwear on my Michelins, but I have had my Blizaks turn to crap after just a few years, when half the tread was gone. At that point they were useless in the snow.

I've never tried the Hakkas as my local guy doesn't typically carry them.

 

[Aminorjourney]

@Mods. please feel free to delete if you think it's spam, but I did a review of the Hakkas last year - Bloody brilliant.

 

[ericgreenski]

Just put Nokian R5s on my 23 PRO. My first non-studded winter tire, but I couldn't bring myself to put studs on and sacrifice just how smooth and quiet the truck is. Tires are mounted to new American Racing Outlaw wheels - I really like the simple work truck look compared to most stuff out there. Wheels fit great, even better than the stock 18s. I had the tires road-force balanced, and it is barely any louder than the original summers. Whole setup did great making a few firewood deliveries this weekend.

Are those 17" rims? Do you have the max tow package? I just tried to put 17" raptor rims on my Pro w/max tow and they did not fit! Trying to figure out my options now.

 

[kstevens]

Are those 17" rims? Do you have the max tow package? I just tried to put 17" raptor rims on my Pro w/max tow and they did not fit! Trying to figure out my options now.

Nope they are 18s. I’ve not heard of someone having success with 17s. Yes I’ve got Max Tow as well. Lots of options out there, problem is most of them are $$$!

 

[queuewho]

Nope they are 18s. I’ve not heard of someone having success with 17s. Yes I’ve got Max Tow as well. Lots of options out there, problem is most of them are $$$!

Where did you buy? Do you have any mods like a lift kit or anything?

 

[kstevens]

Where did you buy? Do you have any mods like a lift kit or anything?

Wheels were cheapest at Discount Tire Direct. No suspension mods, just Max Tow, Tow Tech, and Pro Power

 

[Discount Tire]

Wheels were cheapest at Discount Tire Direct. No suspension mods, just Max Tow, Tow Tech, and Pro Power

We appreciate your support! I agree, the work truck look is sharp!

Are those 17" rims? Do you have the max tow package? I just tried to put 17" raptor rims on my Pro w/max tow and they did not fit! Trying to figure out my options now.

If we can help in anyway, please don't hesitate to shoot us a DM. I confirmed that the AR Outlaw II is still available in the 18x8 ET+30 size (matte black) should you end up going this direction.

 

[kstevens]

We appreciate your support! I agree, the work truck look is sharp!



If we can help in anyway, please don't hesitate to shoot us a DM. I confirmed that the AR Outlaw II is still available in the 18x8 ET+30 size (matte black) should you end up going this direction.

Based on the 8" +30 mm offset AR wheel, I calculated that the outer wheel surface would be 8 mm farther outboard. Seems like what I ended up with, and you can barely see a difference from the stock wheels. They also make a smaller offset (farther outboard) version of the Outlaw if that's your thing. Wheel weight rating is 2500 lbs, so no concern there.

 

[Discount Tire]

Based on the 8" +30 mm offset AR wheel, I calculated that the outer wheel surface would be 8 mm farther outboard. Seems like what I ended up with, and you can barely see a difference from the stock wheels. They also make a smaller offset (farther outboard) version of the Outlaw if that's your thing. Wheel weight rating is 2500 lbs, so no concern there.

Spot on, compared to factory wheels (18x8.5 ET+44) the 18x8 ET+30 is going to sit 8mm (just over 1/4") further towards the fender.

An 18x8 ET+18 version is available as well and compared to factory wheels, will sit 20mm (just over 3/4") further towards the fender.

 

[queuewho]

Spot on, compared to factory wheels (18x8.5 ET+44) the 18x8 ET+30 is going to sit 8mm (just over 1/4") further towards the fender.

An 18x8 ET+18 version is available as well and compared to factory wheels, will sit 20mm (just over 3/4") further towards the fender.

Is there a way for me to find the exact wheels he bought? I am not sure what all these numbers are and it is defaulting to 20" wheels for my 2022 Lariate.

 

[Discount Tire]

Is there a way for me to find the exact wheels he bought? I am not sure what all these numbers are and it is defaulting to 20" wheels for my 2022 Lariate.

Here's the link to the exact wheel, which is our internal part number: 118467. If you have any trouble with this adding to your cart online, let us know!

18x8 ET+30 (6-135) Matte Black American Racing Outlaw II | Discount Tire

 

[canadafolk]

im also thinking about winter tires but will the tremor size fit on the stock 18inch rims
275/70R18? without rubbing on stock suspension

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