There has to chaos, that's "SOCIALISM"!!!!!It was easier there since both Tesla and non-Tesla use the CCS cable. No need for adapters or magic docks, just open up the network. Haven't heard if chaos ensued.
I know where I'd rather live.
Same here! Capitalism works great (as seen by the fact we're buying or have electric trucks) but needs controls that help prevent large corporations from doing bad things to people. It's a fine balance that been a bit "outta whack" on "both sides" for a while.I know where I'd rather live.
I knew something was preventing EA Ford users from using P&P, I just couldn’t remember what!
Most likely scenario!
How do you determine losing market share? Tesla will likely sell 1.8 million BEVs in 2023. Tesla still sells more BEVs than all US manufacturers combined. They also have positive margins. They lowered prices primarily to offset higher rates. It’s an affordability crisis that is affecting the entire industry’s. Fed QT worked, and a lot of people stopped buying vehicles. Ford just cut 2024 Lightning production in half. They don’t want to sell trucks for $40-60k. They need to sell at $80k and limit sales of cheaper trucks to make the platform viable. It’s possible CT production could exceed lightning production in 2024. The CCS charging network is getting worse, while the SC network strengthens and grows exponentially. I see SC access as a lifeline from Tesla. Tesla cannot convert the industry to electric alone and adequate DCFC coverage is mandatory. As someone who regularly DCFCs at EA and Tesla, it’s quite obvious who needed who. If Ford didn't announce SC access for 2024, Lightning new and used values would have suffered even more.
When I use EA all I use is P&P.. yup I pay a premium but I watch all the others trying to get the EA charger working, swiping, phone up against the scanner, calling support all the while I'm happily charging... yes I would love the EA discount that I pay for monthly for but the hassle probably isn't worth it... I think the Ford programmers have learned a lot and with the Tesla programmers, working together, they'll get it working pretty quick.
Great shot. I have only done DCFC a few times and there were always a display on charging station I could use to stop charging. How did you stop the charging session?I recently used Tesla’s magic dock on a road trip on I-20 in Louisiana and Mississippi. I had to use the Tesla app but it worked fine.
The only issue was getting close enough for the cable to connect.
Not sure why you got so worked up here...as a Tesla shareholder since 2016 I follow the company and the risks it has taken and the paths it had to go down to capture the market share, cash flow, and revenue to be successful. Whether that was the launch of the X to try to capture SUV sales or the need to create the model 3 for the volume.
I've never had an issue with the app. While P&C would be preferable, swiping and then charging takes a few extra seconds and saves me dollars each time I charge.
I think he got worked up likely about how you used the number and title "losing market share". - that is a catchy line that misleads the reader. Their percentage of the market may be smaller because there are a few others finally getting a car to market, it is no longer 95% Tesla, there are competitors, but Tesla is not losing market share, they are still selling most every car they make and making multitudes more than any other manufacture. Tesla is ramping up and adding models, and the news from Ford was cut production in half from predictions, which they've never lived up to.
That is exactly what losing market share means. Tesla's share of the EV market is getting smaller. It was going to happen, and the market is growing, so it's not all bad, but it's absolutely true and an important measure. It means Tesla has different considerations to take into account than a few years ago.
I don't disagree, but what I'm pointing out is that most people read it and think it is a bad thing because you are only using the percentage which doesn't tell the whole story. It brings negative connotations and sadly too many people don't understand it. It is used to sound negative. They may be losing "market share", but people that don't understand that don't care if the whole market still grew by 200%. However, most people don't understand that and you've got to give the whole context to use the phrase and not mis lead people.
