RickKeen
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You have to have saved a ton of money not buying gas. Any estimate of electricity costs vs. previous fuel costs?
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Scorpio3d
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Nice write up!Long post.
Most those miles are a consequence of my 5 days a week 90-100 mile commute. Since I drive the same route I mess around with speed, tire pressure, driving style, to find a happy medium. One 7 mile section has 3 dozen curves that love a 50 mph power through but thatās 72 tire rounding corners a day so I take easy unlike days of yore with the tire shredding 5.0 GT. The front wheel drive Subie GL 1300 wagon was a hoot.
Iāve laid down 3/4 of a million miles on this commute route in 50+ years from high school through college & 4 decades in various employment, all requiring long drives. Thus Iāve driven 1/2 ton & 3/4 ton trucks, SUVās, station wagons, pony cars, bug, microbus, convertibles, 1.5 ton & 5 yard hay/farm trucks, with several vehicles accruing 165K, 170K, 220K, many well over 100K. Pushed the limit on a few: Hitting 94 mph in my ā99 7.3 F250 (6 spd manual), picked up by a trooper for doing 90 mph at midnight in my ā89 Subaru XT, nearly wiped out in a herd of elk hustling across the road as I drove between them at 70 mph in my dadās ā66 Olds 88. I was 18 at the time.
Hit two deer, occasional flat tires, cut & pulled trees off the highway, laid out flares, put brush fires out, fueled out-of gas travelers, waved for years at people I never met, raced more than a few people home.
The Sheriff complained one morning at the courthouse that I drove too slow. I said āWell if Iām in a hurry I can go from Stenlinās Corner to the courthouse in 35 minutesā, he says āYea thatās pretty good but my guys do it in 34āā¦ āWell, (I said) your guys have lights!ā
Some favorite rigs?The ā62 bug and microbus were slow. The ā70 Honda SL 350 was a blast. Then came the ā89 XT, ā93 Mustang GT, ā99 7.3 SD F250 (woke the dead on startup), 2010 4.6 V8 Adrenalin, 2018 Twin Turbo V6 Flexā¦..
and now the ā23 Lightningā¦.the most useful, most powerful, quietest, serene, comfortable & charming of them all. And it averages year round ~80 mpge. Stunning.
A GT muscle truck w/IRS, AWD, floats like butterfly & stings like a bee. Hauls 5/6ths of a rack of bodies plus all their gear. Has enough tech to remind me Iām soon hitting 7 decades. Is so intriguing that my crew supervisor always wants to ātake my truckā, good old boy contractors driving F450s-650s, bigger service rigs, are intrigued & appreciate & respect the power & sleeper vibe.
With a tonneau, some hyper style slow acceleration and gain speed downhill, bleed some uphill and staying right at 53 mph in this summer like weather I can average 2.7 miles/kWH if dead calm. With tires pumped to 50 I can occasionally push that to 2.8, even 3.0 but that requires 80-90 degree temps, tail wind and 45-55 traffic (like summer travelers in long packs led by the slowest dog). Point being.. driving style really determines mi/kwh. With load range E tires at a teeth jarring 70 psi no reason why 3.0 mi/kwh wouldnāt be in sight. And even at 1.0 mi/kwh the LT is efficient. And for a guy like me with a 50 mile commute-work radius.. the truck is a contender.
So the truck is late spring-summer-late fall efficient. Late fall through early spring the truck averages 2.1-2.4 with cold temps (below 40ās to mid 20ās) and headwinds the biggest obstacles to higher kWh averages.
In reality it doesnāt really matter.. the LT is efficient. More efficient than any computer mapped, variable timed, injected & boosted state of the art ICE.
Locally Iāve towed 3 trailers (car hauler, flatbed, boat & trailer) and.. whoa.. a towing machine. Since there are 25+ boat launches with 50-60 miles, range isnāt an issue.
Two trips to Great Falls last year, each racking up 1800 miles. Definitely a long distance road tripper. Never a problem with EA charging though occasional glitches with 1/4 chargers not working and one modest wait time when I hit the afternoon rush at the Spokane Valley Mall EA site.
My father & grandfather were union electricians that built big stuff (generator installs on hydro-dams) & they knew full startup torque electrical motor power. Theyād be so pleased to see the LT at full boil power.
Features I use regularly: Cruise, (no sign reading, no lane centering), defrost w/modest heat, frunk, charge at home (CP Home Flex), tire pressure monitoring (two nails recently in tires..from construction sites), auto play music (reasonably long playlist), speech to text, phone, messaging, pro power around house site & farm, trailer assist, heat seat in winter, tailgate step, Ford installed tonneau (roll back), rear window defrost, nav system, ford pass app- charge monitoring, bed tie downs, trip energy, Google maps, rear window defogger. I occasionally mess with the screen menu to keep familiar with options.
Things I donāt use as much; frunk outlets, rear under seat storage, sun roof open, zone lighting, valet option (and a lot of other choices.. I tend to set & forget).
Service repairs- BMS replacement and frunk button wonkiness (under grill).
Unexplainable observations: I was able to repeat this. Uphill left hand curves, under power-load at say 45 mph appear to slightly unload left rear wheel and that imparts an odd out of balance feeling. It appears that some differential response-torque adjustment related to the AWD system may be at play. But WTF do I know?
Take home message: A serene Pullman car on the backend of a locomotive disguised as a very useful pickup truck.
Nailed it.
So do you keep your tires over inflated-vs what the door sticker says?
ER or SR?
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Jseis
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Yes, $.0634 per kWh home charging and with a daily burn rate of 28-40 kW, cost went from 4-5 gallons of $4.5 gallon gas ~$18-$22 per day v. $1.80 summer and $2.60 winterā¦per day. Heck of a savings over the twin turbo Flex at 20-22 mpg. Annually nearly $5K net.
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Scorpio3d
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Yeah, mine were about that 38-39 range when I bought it. I keep them about 36-37 So I was curious if there was much difference going up to 40-41.
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Jseis
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I rolled at 50 psi for a couple weeks.
1) better turn in
2) stiffer ride though barely noticeable.
3) I started seeing 2.8 mi/kWh occasionally. Would not do/use that in winter though.
I had load range E pumped to 75 psi on my ā99 F250 7.3 and itād get 24 mpg at 50-55ā¦.. one jarring ride!
I got to thinking that the LT has a superior ride and could probably roll with thoseā¦ heavy truck, IRS, might work. Thatād probably push it to near 3.0 if speed average was under 55?
Effonefiddy Lightning
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My 2 cents. 37,490K in 10 months. I wonder what the highest mileage Lightning has.
That's a beautiful F-150 Lightning! Thanks for sharing.Long post.
Most those miles are a consequence of my 5 days a week 90-100 mile commute. Since I drive the same route I mess around with speed, tire pressure, driving style, to find a happy medium. One 7 mile section has 3 dozen curves that love a 50 mph power through but thatās 72 tire rounding corners a day so I take easy unlike days of yore with the tire shredding 5.0 GT
Iāve laid down 3/4 of a million miles on this commute route in 50+ years from high school through college & 4 decades in various employment, all requiring long drives. Thus Iāve driven 1/2 ton & 3/4 ton trucks, SUVās, station wagons, pony cars, bug, microbus, convertibles, 1.5 ton & 5 yard hay/farm trucks, with several vehicles accruing 165K, 170K, 220K, many well over 100K. Pushed the limit on a few: Hitting 94 mph in my ā99 7.3 F250 (6 spd manual), picked up by a trooper for doing 90 mph at midnight in my ā89 Subaru XT, nearly wiped out in a herd of elk hustling across the road as I drove between them at 70 mph in my dadās ā66 Olds 88. I was 18 at the time.
Hit two deer, occasional flat tires, cut & pulled trees off the highway, laid out flares, put brush fires out, fueled out-of gas travelers, waved for years at people I never met, raced more than a few people home.
The Sheriff complained one morning at the courthouse that I drove too slow. I said āWell if Iām in a hurry I can go from Stenlinās Corner to the courthouse in 35 minutesā, he says āYea thatās pretty good but my guys do it in 34āā¦ āWell, (I said) your guys have lights!ā
Some favorite rigs?The ā62 bug and microbus were slow. The ā70 Honda SL 350 was a blast. Then came the ā89 XT, ā93 Mustang GT, ā99 7.3 SD F250 (woke the dead on startup), 2010 4.6 V8 Adrenalin, 2018 Twin Turbo V6 Flexā¦..
and now the ā23 Lightningā¦.the most useful, most powerful, quietest, serene, comfortable & charming of them all. And it averages year round ~80 mpge. Stunning.
A GT muscle truck w/IRS, AWD, floats like butterfly & stings like a bee. Hauls 5/6ths of a rack of bodies plus all their gear. Has enough tech to remind me Iām soon hitting 7 decades. Is so intriguing that my crew supervisor always wants to ātake my truckā, good old boy contractors driving F450s-650s, bigger service rigs, are intrigued & appreciate & respect the power & sleeper vibe.
With a tonneau, some hyper style slow acceleration and gain speed downhill, bleed some uphill and staying right at 53 mph in this summer like weather I can average 2.7 miles/kWH if dead calm. With tires pumped to 50 I can occasionally push that to 2.8, even 3.0 but that requires 80-90 degree temps, tail wind and 45-55 traffic (like summer travelers in long packs led by the slowest dog). Point being.. driving style really determines mi/kwh. With load range E tires at a teeth jarring 70 psi no reason why 3.0 mi/kwh wouldnāt be in sight. And even at 1.0 mi/kwh the LT is efficient. And for a guy like me with a 50 mile commute-work radius.. the truck is a contender.
So the truck is late spring-summer-late fall efficient. Late fall through early spring the truck averages 2.1-2.4 with cold temps (below 40ās to mid 20ās) and headwinds the biggest obstacles to higher kWh averages.
In reality it doesnāt really matter.. the LT is efficient. More efficient than any computer mapped, variable timed, injected & boosted state of the art ICE.
Locally Iāve towed 3 trailers (car hauler, flatbed, boat & trailer) and.. whoa.. a towing machine. Since there are 25+ boat launches with 50-60 miles, range isnāt an issue.
Two trips to Great Falls last year, each racking up 1800 miles. Definitely a long distance road tripper. Never a problem with EA charging though occasional glitches with 1/4 chargers not working and one modest wait time when I hit the afternoon rush at the Spokane Valley Mall EA site.
My father & grandfather were union electricians that built big stuff (generator installs on hydro-dams) & they knew full startup torque electrical motor power. Theyād be so pleased to see the LT at full boil power.
Features I use regularly: Cruise, (no sign reading, no lane centering), defrost w/modest heat, frunk, charge at home (CP Home Flex), tire pressure monitoring (two nails recently in tires..from construction sites), auto play music (reasonably long playlist), speech to text, phone, messaging, pro power around house site & farm, trailer assist, heat seat in winter, tailgate step, Ford installed tonneau (roll back), rear window defrost, nav system, ford pass app- charge monitoring, bed tie downs, trip energy, Google maps, rear window defogger. I occasionally mess with the screen menu to keep familiar with options.
Things I donāt use as much; frunk outlets, rear under seat storage, sun roof open, zone lighting, valet option (and a lot of other choices.. I tend to set & forget).
Service repairs- BMS replacement and frunk button wonkiness (under grill).
Unexplainable observations: I was able to repeat this. Uphill left hand curves, under power-load at say 45 mph appear to slightly unload left rear wheel and that imparts an odd out of balance feeling. It appears that some differential response-torque adjustment related to the AWD system may be at play. But WTF do I know?
Take home message: A serene Pullman car on the backend of a locomotive disguised as a very useful pickup truck.
Nailed it.
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That's another great pic! Wow!I charge to ~90% at the Missoula EA site and the trick was charging overnight at the Credit Union L2 chargers near the Staybridge Suites in Great Falls since I had driving to do east near Fort Benton. Worked out pretty well. Never saw anyone else there charging. With the adapter, the Tesla site will make GF a breeze.
We love to hear that, Joseph! That's a stunning F-150 Lightning!Eh thatās a bummer, my dad scored an XLT ER for a great price and had me thinking but I plan on riding this until it quits I think. Lowered the rear end and powder coated some Lariat wheels and love the look now anyway!
That's awesome, Alfred! We'd love to see a pic.
Here's to another 29k, Geoff! We'd love to see this XLT!Hurray for commuters! I've got 29k on my XLT. Was working with a dealer on a trade in for their Lariat ER and was told I have "the 2nd highest mileage XLT in a 2000 mile radius"
