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Hi all! New Lightning owner here (one day shy of 3 weeks, 1,800 miles). But I have been following along here for a while ahead of pulling the trigger. Bought a 2023 Lightning Lariat - one of the leftovers on a dealer lot and got what I thought was a pretty good deal last month. The truck is as awesome as I had hoped. But it's been a fun, but challenging, few weeks. I am having an issue that the dealer hasn't yet figured out and Ford DMs have just unhelpfully told me to talk to the dealer - so I am hoping someone here might have some insight.

Bought the car on 9/25. On the way home from the dealer I got the wrench icon and "Service Vehicle" message. Called dealer and he said it should "clear itself" and was nothing to worry about. Should have brought it right back then. Anyway, kept getting the icon for a few days and was also getting the a "Powertrain Malfunction / Reduced Power" Fordpass message. Made an appointment with the dealer and got it in and they replaced the Gear Shift mechanism - which we knew was malfunctioning from the factory before I bought it - lesson learned there on taking a car with an open issue. Problem 1 solved...

A couple of days later I was having issues with the modem working on and off so I pulled the Fuse 32A. Reset the modem and everything seemed to be working fine. Seemed like it cleared some sort of "clog" too as a whole host of messages came through on my Fordpass app shortly thereafter (free trials being started, etc.). However, that same day I started getting a new Service message in my Fordpass indicating a "High-Voltage Battery Warning" and the "Powertrain control system has detected a communication fault." Here is where it gets weird. I am ONLY getting the error message in my Fordpass app. If I log into my account on ford.com it says my vehicle is in excellent health (shows no powertrain issues). The truck drives perfectly fine and I am getting no error messages on the dash. Below is a screenshot of the error message from the Fordpass app.

Took it to the dealer yesterday and they did a bunch of software updates and sent me on my way. Said that one of the OTA updates appeared to have crashed mid update and that was causing all sorts of issues. They forced through the software updates at the dealer and said it cleared all of the codes and that I would be good. I left the dealer and immediately got the same error message on my Fordpass app. Went right back to the dealer where the truck sits now for them to try and figure out what's going on.

Has anyone had a similar experience? It almost feels like a phantom issue with Fordpass. However, the dealer did show me the Oasys screen for the car and it is showing many many (hundreds) codes there - all pertaining to communication faults. Last item for consideration - The dealer says I am up to date on software updates, but I am still not seeing the battery percentage indicator on the HUD. It still just says 100 and 0 - not the actual SOC of the battery. I believe this was an update in 2023. I called Ford about this one and they say it is a Powerup update and not a software update - and that I should just wait. I dont have an issue with waiting, but I am just noting it in case it might be related.

Please help! Thanks!

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Just an observation from experiences I've had, communications and timely notifications is not been Fordpass' hallmark, given that you appeared to have that initial issue with comm's.

If the tech say's your all up to date, that doesn't really mean much, they don't want to spend hours of unpaid time to catch up everything that will eventually come as OTA's , they will come in due time and typically start after a communications log jam has been resolved.

As long as the truck is performing well, ie. no actual reduced power, it's charging on Level-1, 2 and DCFC then all should be good. After a week, if these disturbing notification continue to post make a new visit with service to have them review the situation, you could also call the Ford hotline to see if anything is wrong with your connected services and Fordpass account that they can remedy remotely.
 

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To add to what @TaxmanHog just posted, it might also be worth deleting the FordPass App entirely from your phone (data and all) and reinstalling it.

Can’t hurt and might actually help.
 

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@Ford Motor Company, here is your chance to help a new owner.
LOL. Let's just say I have been underwhelmed so far by Ford's response. I have been texting with my "EV Advisor" at Ford (no help), speaking with the dealer (no help so far but still holding out hope), Ford DMs on this Forum (no help), Ford's 1800 number (no help) and the Fordpass 1800 number (no help). My EV Advisor today actually told me that if the dealer can't figure it out I should make an appointment with another dealer! Big help there.

Pretty frustrating considering that I only bought the car three weeks ago!
 

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LOL. Let's just say I have been underwhelmed so far by Ford's response. I have been texting with my "EV Advisor" at Ford (no help), speaking with the dealer (no help so far but still holding out hope), Ford DMs on this Forum (no help), Ford's 1800 number (no help) and the Fordpass 1800 number (no help). My EV Advisor today actually told me that if the dealer can't figure it out I should make an appointment with another dealer! Big help there.

Pretty frustrating considering that I only bought the car three weeks ago!
I am not expecting a miracle, but I never give up providing Ford a chance to do better. @Ford Motor Company has an account on this forum, so my post was intended to ping their account. They are not technical representatives, but they can sure forward the messages to someone who is.

@Ford Motor Company, read the list of different attempts the OP has made to contact someone at Ford to help him get his new Ford truck running reliably. He surely can't drive his new truck with confidence when he is getting high voltage battery and powertrain warnings, even if they are false. Forward his experience to Jim Farley. I am betting he can help.
 
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To add to what @TaxmanHog just posted, it might also be worth deleting the FordPass App entirely from your phone (data and all) and reinstalling it.

Can’t hurt and might actually help.
Thanks for the suggestion. I tried this, but no luck. FWIW this was also the suggestion from Fordpass's 1800 support number.
 

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Thanks for the suggestion. I tried this, but no luck. FWIW this was also the suggestion from Fordpass's 1800 support number.
🤔 I don’t know if that’s good or bad?
 

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Hum, here it is a day and a half and crickets from . . . . @Ford Motor Company , SMH & RME
 
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Dealer still hasn't been able to figure it out. They are saying they have been in touch with Ford and Ford has not been able to help. Master Reset the Fordpass from the truck hoping that might help but no luck. Still no help from Ford directly. I sent them another DM but am not holding out hope!

Not sure if this is related but this happened on the night of 10/4 - which my Oasis report is listing as the date of my last OTA update. It lists as "cancelled" though I didn't cancel it. I had the dealer send me the recent Oasis page, but does anyone on this forum have the ability to pull my full Oasis report (if that's even possible)? I asked for it from Ford but they told me I have to ask the dealer (sounding like a broken record in that regard!). Please DM me if so.
 

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Dealer still hasn't been able to figure it out. They are saying they have been in touch with Ford and Ford has not been able to help. Master Reset the Fordpass from the truck hoping that might help but no luck. Still no help from Ford directly. I sent them another DM but am not holding out hope!

Not sure if this is related but this happened on the night of 10/4 - which my Oasis report is listing as the date of my last OTA update. It lists as "cancelled" though I didn't cancel it. I had the dealer send me the recent Oasis page, but does anyone on this forum have the ability to pull my full Oasis report (if that's even possible)? I asked for it from Ford but they told me I have to ask the dealer (sounding like a broken record in that regard!). Please DM me if so.
@rugedraw may be able to assist. He has been able to see what updates are outstanding for your VIN.
 

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@rugedraw may be able to assist. He has been able to see what updates are outstanding for your VIN.
I'd be happy to take a look. Even if there is something obvious, without FDRS, it would be virtually impossible to fix.

@Katonah Mike I may not be able to do anything, but message me your VIN and I'll gladly poke around and see if I see anything.
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