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Don't get your hopes up over the $12,500. At this point I'll be shocked if there's any changes to it at all. Just operate under the assumption that it'll still be a $7500 tax credit.

If the ZEV stuff turns out to be true, I'll definitely have to move on from 1st gen. I waited too late to reserve so anywhere I move to I'll be at a huge disadvantage. I get why they'd do it but damn would it hurt.

There's a reason why these are called "preproduction" vehicles. Any number of factors could have been involved in their decision to remove the push button.

Sounds like I'm super fortunate that my internet sales manager actually knows about the Lightning and features of the Mach-E, then. I shouldn't take that for granted.

The fact that these aren't being streamed and/or archived on YouTube is baffling. There must be some reason, but I can't imagine what.

Yeah, that was odd to me as well. Very first thing under the hero image is bragging about a glass roof. I get that they don't want to reveal too much too early but come on.

So based on information so far, I'm not even sure why anyone would buy a Platinum for anything other than bragging rights.

Holy crap I thought you were joking. They really played some mental gymnastics to not answer half those questions. A few weren't off base, they were playing a different game entirely. Just don't answer them at all at that point.

Assuming they even confirm the order at all. It's baffling to me how a dealer can be "EV certified" yet not know a damn thing about the company's largest EV launch for years to come.

Ford and the other legacies should have their lawyers in overdrive figuring out a way to sell direct to consumers, whether that's under their existing brands or spinning off EVs to a separate entity.

Do you know if they're promising no ADM? Also, what's the dealership's name?

I have that site bookmarked, it ends conversations with cult members on the internet instantly, every time. Guaranteed!

Musk has said a lot of things... https://www.elonmusk.today/

Also hoping for Lariat as my first choice. Seems to offer just about everything I want except the seats, but I can't justify the difference for just that. I've heard the B&O system isn't that great so I'm not missing that either. Worst case scenario (depending on how BBB goes) I may go with a...

Exactly, this will be my daily driver and used sometimes for home improvement runs. I want this to be comfortable to drive.

That definitely appears to be the case, haha! I feel like for people who need the "truck" portions of the truck, the decreased payload isn't justified for the additional cost, and those who don't mind paying for features just doesn't see the value in what you get over a loaded/optioned Lariat...

I'm curious about this as well. A lot of chatter here and on Reddit seems to indicate many people are going for the Pro, with few of them even considering going XLT depending on how options shake out. I feel like I'm in a small minority targeting the Lariat trim. I'd be interested in seeing...

Gotcha. My point is that people can only take so much bullshittery before moving on. Many people who hate Tesla/Elon willingly admits that they're attracted to the no-dealership setup. Places like CarMax and Carvana are known for charging more for used vehicles but it's no-haggle and they're...

I didn't mention credits at all.

They absolutely are. They do this in every thread they participate in. At this point you're better off just adding them to your ignore list and moving on, it's a waste of time.