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Recently got my charge station pro wired up at my house and have been using it for the last couple of weeks to charge my truck and to precondition for daily drives. Through the Ford Pass app you can see “insights” to these charging sessions. I noticed that my preconditioning sessions were typically using as much electricity as the evening charging sessions took to recharge my truck back to 80% after my daily drive. My truck is garage kept in a well insulated garage, and the temperatures where I live have been lows in the 50’s this week, highs in the 70’s, so likely my garage overnight is staying 60 degrees or warmer. In the picture you can see the precondition used almost 15kwh, and over the last couple of weeks it’s been between 12-15 daily. Even on a day where I preconditioned with cabin temp set to off, the charger still showed 12 kWh used for the session.
This surprised me and has caused me to decide not to precondition daily, especially in the milder parts of the year.
Is there any battery “health benefit” to allowing the truck to precondition daily versus just getting in and driving when my garage is always 45 degrees or warmer?

If not I don’t think it’s worth the $1-1.50 cost to have the truck cabin warm when it’ll only take about 2 minutes to warm it up when I start the truck and leave.

I’m assuming that because my charge station is set to 80 amps, it’s using more energy than my mobile charger was at 30 amps to accomplish the same preconditioning sessions.

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The way the FCSP insights works is that it combines all energy consumption from the time it's plugged in to the time it's unplugged.

Do you regularly unplug right after completing the battery recharging phase?

Hopefully you are, as that would give an accurate measure of the energy used the following morning to warm the battery and cabin, I don't think I've ever used 15 kWh to achieve that status, even in cold winter conditions.

I suspect the 15 kWh 08:02 AM record includes the previous evening/days battery charging energy plus whatever was needed in the early Friday morning to warm the battery and cabin.
 
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That could be what it is doing based on my electrical companies usage data, looks like the morning preconditions are only using 5-6 kWh of electricity. Weird that it would show the charging session amount at the end of the day and then also include that information on the next days information with the precondition.
 

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That could be what it is doing based on my electrical companies usage data, looks like the morning preconditions are only using 5-6 kWh of electricity. Weird that it would show the charging session amount at the end of the day and then also include that information on the next days information with the precondition.
Yup, that is just what happened, if convenient, after getting the Fordpass notification that the truck is fully charged, unplug it for a minute, that will close the charge event log in the FCSP data log, and you will see the event on the hour of the unplugging.

Then plug in the truck for the remainder of the evening/early morning, then let the precondition run on schedule, once it's done and you're ready to leave, unplug and data report will just be the energy primarily for the battery & cabin conditioning.
 

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There is no benefit to preconditioning in the temps you are in unless you need max range for a long trip.
 

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If not I don’t think it’s worth the $1-1.50 cost to have the truck cabin warm when it’ll only take about 2 minutes to warm it up when I start the truck and leave.

I’m assuming that because my charge station is set to 80 amps, it’s using more energy than my mobile charger was at 30 amps to accomplish the same preconditioning sessions.
There really isn't a cost to preconditioning. the electricity is either supplied directly from the wall or it comes from the battery which is recharged from the wall. the cost in dollars is the same. the "cost" is when not preconditioning you lose range.
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